Quote from: thejewelrytech on March 20, 2014, 10:26:10 PM

Quote from: Rannasha on March 19, 2014, 12:33:56 PM

Quote from: thejewelrytech on March 15, 2014, 07:31:26 AM

You should learn to KNOW what you are talking about before commenting what is your theory based on?I THINK or I KNOW?Oh wait its obviously you have your DOCTORATE in" I THINK" Shocked

If you READ A BOOk or TWO or even understood simple Math or read up on what I posted you would know its impossible for a CPU to Handle A BILLION calculatons!LOOK IT UP! it would take a cpu years and MONTHS ON MONTHS to shuffle the deck properly it can't do it! it's not fast enough! Why do you think no one uses a CPU TO MINE BITCOIN? it can't handle the CALCULATIONS its too SLOW It's too STUPID!It cant even solve 500,000,000 Block in a 5 second how do you think it will solve A BILLION calculations of a card deck? don't believe me just try and use a cpu to mine and see how long it takes you too get a best share in the MILLIONS! let me know in a couple of years when you get that share that high lol and a poker deck has over a billion possibilities the TOP OF THE LINE INTEl or AMD will take years and years some months! even a 16 core processor can't do it a Quantum computer can't even do it! Its a Mathematical FACT LOOK IT UP! but if you knew anything about what your TALKING ABOUT Roll Eyes

or even about computers in general?and the processor you would know that ::)I'm A+ certified and a Cisco network graduate I know a thing or two about computers and what I'm talking about based on EDUCATION.

Do you have no idea how much bullshit you're talking here? For the record, I'm a mathematician, so you don't have to try and impress me with claiming things about "simple Math" or "Mathematical FACT LOOK IT UP!" (what's up with the weird capitalization anyway?).

A standard 52-card shuffled eck has about 226 bits of information (2^226 possible shuffles). If I roll dice (d6, to be precise), I can generate such a shuffle with 88 dice-rolls, which definitely isn't impossible. You also state that it is impossible for a CPU to "Handle A BILLION calculations!". My quad-core CPU runs at about 4 GHz, which is 4 billion clock ticks per second. According to Intels manual, integer addition (for example: 183 + 912) has a latency of 1 cycle and integer multiplication (183 * 912) has a latency of 3 cycles. So with the 16 billion clock cycles that my 4 CPU-cores run through per second, they could, in theory, perform 16 billion additions or just over 5 billion multiplications. Per second. Now most useful calculations will be a little bit more complicated, but the order of magnitude is there.

Fortunately, generating a shuffled deck doesn't take billions of calculations. It just takes a random 226 bit number. While a good random number generator is not straight forward to make on a computer, it's perfectly possible. The computer could sample static from a disconnected line-in / mic jack on the soundcard. This static noise should provide more than enough entropy for proper random number generation.

While the number of possible deck shuffles is indeed very large (a billion doesn't even do justice to the magnitude of the number), it is rather straightforward to generate it. And it is certainly not something that would take a high end CPU "years and year some months" (huh?). As an interesting comparison, a Bitcoin private key is a 256 bit number, where there are almost 2^256 possible private keys (so about a billion times more than the number of possible deck shuffles) and our computers have no problems randomly generating those by the boatload.

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By not being able to give true random odds the system is very PREDICTABLE I can win over 80% of my hands all the time and everyone else could too if they knew the system.All the poker sites use the same software my bitcoin is worth way too much to bet with poker and the poker sites around are kind of hackey and after Fulltilt and losing thousands too insolvency and gov I'm all set with ever giving a poker site my money again FUCK THAT lol ill take a live game @ FOXWOODS FTW! except if Pokerstars cameback to the states I would gladly go back Grin

. So i wont do it on these sites don't trust any of these sites like Exchanges Ill hold my own Bitcoin THANK YOU Cool

but I do play the freerolls Grin

and i won my first one played last month and didn't even practice and won 120 satoshi chips paid 8th place in satoshi grindabit poker FREEROLL and won a paid freeroll on seals with clubs also with over a couple hundred people playing using same methods I've always use to predict the outcomes while on fulltilt,ultimatebet,and pokerstars,and I will use the winning to play a big tournament soon its all House money with nothing to Lose Grin

The system isn't rigged against anyone everyone does get the same odds kind of so to speak but it has nothing to do with the cards you are holding in how you Win .The way i play my hands aren't based on card strength 90% of the time and I WIn majority regardless of what Im holding by the way so I know what I'm talking about I'm talking from experience you don't have any true poker odds when you only have a million possibilities to pick from instead of a billion that changes the game completely its like playing blackjack and taking out the tens its no longer Blackjack its now Spanish blackjack with different ODDS and requires a change in playing style the game completely changes its not the same.But this would take MATH SKILL to Truly understand that even complete randomness can be predicted this is how the likes of how students from MIT beat the HOUSE! Complete randomness can be predicted but something like this is obviously WAY WAY OVER YOUR HEAD when you can't even spell MUCH!ROFL Go back to school son.................

Complete randomness can't, by its very definition, be predicted.

What can be predicted, sometimes, are sloppy implementations by casino operators. Regardless of the game or the bet or the system, if the operator isn't careful in properly implementing the software, it can be exploited. But this doesn't mean that it is fundamentally impossible to create a fair game that can't be cheated, unlike what you like to claim.

What school did you go too? If I were you I would seriously ask for my MONEY BACK!! Also to know never to send my kid to that school!lol Didn't they teach you to read about what you talk about first or too Learn something read about it?instead of talking out your ass!Since your too dumb to try and learn what your talking about I'll do the work for you Wink

a shuffle has a number variance of 8.0658x1067 way over a billion I never said it had a Billion just way overit it and way over your petty little pentium capabilities you obviously know nothing about computers Shocked

Your still trying to compare REAL world numbers with random numbers generated by a computer and dice and cards are 2 different completely sets of odds and probabilities 12 random against against 52 which is over 4 times greater real Math GENIUS there Roll Eyes

A computer has to always live by a PROGRAMMED SET OF RULES as true randomness doesn't have to ever but maybe if you read anything on psuedo number generators instead of talking out your ass because you know jack shit!! lol and read and learn how they actually work you might realize it will never be the same ever....Learn something and maybe you will EARN something DUMB ASS.........
http://www.cigital.com/papers/download/developer_gambling.php
http://www.khanacademy.org/math/applied-math/cryptography/crypt/v/random-vs--pseudorandom-number-generators#!( watch the VIDEO)
http://voices.yahoo.com/random-number-generators-vs-pseudo-random-number-generators-3495601.html
http://www.random.org/randomness/
http://www.lauradhamilton.com/random-lessons-online-poker-exploit
http://voices.yahoo.com/random-number-generators-vs-pseudo-random-number-generators-3495601.html

Im going to chime in here. As a fair warning I do not know alot about this stuff and just going responding to what the previous guy said to cause you to insult him.

Your first link shows how these people cracked the RNG (im going to refer to it as that) and were able to predict what the deck was every hand online. Personally i was around when this came out. This was years ago when i played online poker a lot. I remember this story breaking on 2+2 and reading about it. Like it also mentions on the page is that it is possible to create a random deck but the code that was used was flawed. I believe you are arguing with the user Rannasha and he clearly said the same thing these guys said. It is possible to create a truly random deck if it is done right.

Your second link also mentions that it is possible to use static noise or random sound to generate a truly random number. Rannasha also mentioned this is in post. He said a mic could be used to generate a random sound.

I found the third link to be pretty much pointless. It also says that RNGS are arguably random as if they are not they have not found a pattern or know how to find a pattern in them yet.

Your fourth link once again mentions TRUE random number generators that once again hits on what Rannasha originally said using static noise from a mic to make a true random number

Your fifth link is the same story as your first link

And finally your 6th link is the same as your 3rd link.

So basically what you have done is proven, by the links you pasted, that what Rannasha said is not only absolutely doable it is also a true random number.

I think Rannasha owes you a tip for proving his/her point for them. Cheesy