Quote from: suchmoon on September 13, 2021, 11:27:34 PM

Quote from: Pmalek on September 13, 2021, 07:11:59 AM

LoyceV's and TryNinja's bots are reliable source unless they have a way to edit the post content. I have never heard any complaints that might be the case though.

Of course they can modify the archived posts at any time. I'm quite sure LoyceV has removed or edited some doxing attempts once or twice.

I document all my censorship in this topic.

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But they're staking their reputation on it and we can trust that they wouldn't do it for malicious purposes about as much as we trust them not to scam or otherwise deceive in general.

My archiving was questioned by nullius 5 months ago, which I addressed. After this, I added hashes to archived posts, and addressed missing posts.
If you want to detect foul play I might do in the future, by all means, please archive up to 10,000 post hashes at a time!

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I do trust both TryNinja and LoyceV but I would still argue that moderators should not use those archives to ban users, particularly if the ban reason itself no longer exists in this forum (the post has been edited by the author).

Agreed. If the user corrects his mistake before getting banned, they may actually improve in the future.
If you want to report plagiarism without alerting the user to edit his post: click Report to moderator instead of posting in public.

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My last edit date makes it look like I made the edit recently and the plagiarism existed for a year. Archives don't really capture every edit to show what actually happened.

Admin would still be able to confirm you didn't remove the plagiarism just then. Even better: if you remove accidental plagiarism within 10 minutes after posting, the forum keeps no record of it at all.
Basically, my archive is great for catching typos and ninja edits.

And that reminds me of the case where someone ninja-edited his post to make the user who posted after him look like he copied it. Always be careful who to accuse