Quote from: eddie13 on Today at 03:58:10 PM

Do these “vaccines” provide immunity? NO!
Will they contribute to “herd immunity”? NO! (Because they don’t even provide immunity)
Do they prevent infection? NO!
Do they prevent you from spreading? NO!!

95% reduction in infection - https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M21-1577
90% reduction in infection - https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n888
94% reduction in hospitalization - https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7018e1.htm
50% reduction in transmission - https://khub.net/documents/135939561/390853656/Impact+of+vaccination+on+household+transmission+of+SARS-COV-2+in+England.pdf/35bf4bb1-6ade-d3eb-a39e-9c9b25a8122a?t=1619601878136

Quote from: eddie13 on Today at 03:58:10 PM

If anything, the vaccines are causing the vaccinated to spread it around MORE, walking around contagious without any symptoms, being free from wearing masks even though they can and do still spread it..

Zero evidence for this.

Quote from: eddie13 on Today at 03:58:10 PM

Herd immunity?

I place little faith in the US administration at the best of times, but changing politics does not impact on how effective the vaccine is.

Quote from: eddie13 on Today at 03:58:10 PM

Vaccines safe?
Their are MOUNTAINS of evidence to the point that the vaccines are at the very least not 100% safe (or effective)..

Nothing is 100% safe. Getting out of bed in the morning is not 100% safe. Vaccines are not 100% safe (and I never said otherwise), but the risk of serious complications from the vaccine is tiny, and is dwarfed by the risk of serious complications of actually catching COVID.
Incidence rate ratio of venous thromboembolism after vaccine of 1.1, and after COVID infection of 12.76 - https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n1931

Quote from: eddie13 on Today at 03:58:10 PM

Knowing all these FACTS, how can you still parrot the mainstream propaganda narrative?

As I said above, I don't care what any individuals or news sources are saying. I'm not parroting anything. I'm critically appraising the evidence for myself and reaching the only logical conclusion.

Quote from: eddie13 on Today at 03:58:10 PM

Where are you atleast willing to meet in the middle at all?

It's not a case of meeting in the middle when one side has facts and evidence and the other side is only conspiracy theories and speculation.

Provide evidence that my views are wrong and I will change them. It's as simple as that.