Quote from: tvbcof on October 04, 2021, 05:29:47 PM

Quote from: figliar0 on October 04, 2021, 04:53:48 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on October 04, 2021, 12:37:16 PM

Quote from: figliar0 on October 04, 2021, 11:41:36 AM

I am not vaccinated. It doesn't seem that it'll have any positive effect to me (lots of vaccinated people still get covid), but can have negative impact. I don't want to get experimental vaccine, such a thing should be well paid job. I don't think my country is rich enough to spend so much money for covid-restrictions and I don't want to participate on destroying life to next generation of our descendants. Our government lied too often about covid to be trusted anymore.

Shit man, are you trying to give me false hope or something?!?

I don't understand about what hope you are talking about. I just typed my reasons why I became anti-vaxxer these days...

I mean I had kind of given up hope that anyone could look at the situation, recognize some of the risks, unknowns, benefits, etc, and come to what I feel to be a common sense conclusion about what is right for them.

Seems like I recall that you might be one of those persons from SE Asia. It would be especially heartening to me if citizens of these countries are thinking logically because the political leaderships may (or may not) be able to be dragged along toward a position of sanity by the masses. Else, they are certainly going to be fishing for IMF and World Bank money, and that translates to men with guns will ultimately make sure that all but the top elite get the jab eventually.

Sorry, I'm not from Asia at all, I live in Europe. But I think that it is similar everywhere. Officially the vaxx are voluntary, but government is doing everything to force people to it. There are really big money in it, so I'm not wondering... I think that in Asia it is much worse that in EU, but I am not sure... Because of my opinion I already lost my job. It is not easy these days...

Quote from: LTU_btc on October 04, 2021, 08:08:27 PM

Yes, I got vaccinated. No, not because of disease - I don't fear at all to get covid. During whole year without taking any precautions I didn't got covid. Though, maybe I had it without symptoms, I don't know, I haven't been tested.
Main reason why I took vaccine is because that I want to avoid restrictions. Travelling without requirements to make tests and go into isolation, or simply go into restaurant. And I think that many people took vaccine because of similar reasons, not disease. Many people had to take vaccine because they were forced to do it and didn't had other choice.

Totally undestand your attitude. I personally know lot of people with similar one. But do you realize, that it won't end with one-shot? Soon we will have to go for jab periodically every few months, we will have covidpasses, even more restristions... So you avoid restrictions in short-time, but you did the worst thing in a long-time. If people didn't obey government in every restriction in spring/summer 2020, we can have no restriciotns today. If we obey every government shit today, we do not have less restrictions tommorow.