Quote from: LTU_btc on Today at 07:20:20 PM

Quote from: figliar0 on Today at 05:38:42 AM

Totally undestand your attitude. I personally know lot of people with similar one. But do you realize, that it won't end with one-shot? Soon we will have to go for jab periodically every few months, we will have covidpasses, even more restristions... So you avoid restrictions in short-time, but you did the worst thing in a long-time. If people didn't obey government in every restriction in spring/summer 2020, we can have no restriciotns today. If we obey every government shit today, we do not have less restrictions tommorow.

Yeah, I understand that that government soon can start to invite people to take third shot and it's very unlikely that it will be the last one. And I'm completely not fascinated about it. But what you're offering? It's easy to tell not obey government shit, but for example without covid passport I would be required to make tests every few days in order to go to work.

Quote from: Cnut237 on Today at 08:04:26 AM

The reason that we still have restrictions is that the virus is still circulating, with a high R-value. And the main reason for this is that we haven't quite achieved herd immunity, because not enough people have taken the vaccine. It is anti-vaxxers who are causing the restrictions, which is strange as they are the ones responsible.

Look at the data.

I think that even with vaccines, herd immunity isn't possible. It's because we have mutations like Delta and vaccines isn't that effective against it - numbers of vaxxed people getting infected isn't small.

Natural herd immunity is the reason why less than 1% of the world's population ever got Covid. And it's way less than 1% when you understand that even the CDC said that 94% of the Covid dead were really from comorbidities. In fact, the vast majority getting Covid these days, are getting it from the Covid vaxxes.

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