Quote from: comeonalready on March 21, 2014, 03:13:20 AM

Quote from: zSprawl on March 21, 2014, 01:04:12 AM

Quote from: comeonalready on March 21, 2014, 12:32:24 AM

Quote from: zSprawl on March 21, 2014, 12:26:07 AM

Quote from: comeonalready on March 20, 2014, 10:34:05 PM

Quote from: madian on March 20, 2014, 01:47:24 PM

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author=comeonalready

And it is payout per MHD!

I see you insist... Ok. Let me show you my reasoning for why IT IS NOT MHD and then you can just slam down your irrefutable proof and I'll stand rebuked.

let's say that your hashrate is 1 MHs. Meaning that your computational power can "solve" 1 million hashes in a second. Analogous to active power being measured in kW, the energy consumption is measured based on the consumption of power in a unit of time thus the kWh unit of measure. When you want to see how much energy you consumed in a DAY you just count the kWh which means you consumed 24 kWh/day (for 1 kWh).

when you use BTC/MHD you are implying that your hash rate is 1 "MH per day" which is false. your hash rate is an average of 1 MHs over a day's time and you contributed with 3600* 1 MH in a day's time. WP states [0.01 btc/(average MHs) in a day] and not the amount of hashes in a day. And lastly, the unit of measure is MHs. you can twist that figure to show a day or a year but it's still MHs as reported by your miners.

BTC/Day BTC s 1 Day BTC -------- = --- x --- x ------- = -------- 1MH / s Day 1MH 86400 s 86400 MH

For convenience I suggested that we create a unit named MegaHashDay (or MHD) to equal 86400 MH, but that has proven to be anything but convenient. So let's call it a Thump instead, as that is the sound you hear when you bang your head against a wall. Until you hear nothing at all that is...

BTC / Thump

Doesn't that prove it is BTC/MH*D? The point being the D is not in the lower part of the fraction...

Has no one here taken middle/high school level math classes and actually passed them? For an answer to your question, please refer to www.mathisfun.com.

Basic math? lol...

So you're saying 5/(5*5) = 5/5*5? If so, sorry for even wasting your time because you're lost. :p

And as for zSprawl, on his order of operations argument and retarded analogy proving absolutely nothing...

You are correct that a specific order of operations in the denominator would be necessary if the denominator still contained an irreducible operation. But what you failed to realize is that both Day in the numerator of the larger fraction and s in the denominator of the larger fraction are both units of time in different scales, and 1 Day always equals 86400 seconds. So either time unit contained in the denominators of the smaller fractions can be rewritten to share a time scale with the other, and the larger fraction can be further reduced to a point at which there is no operation remaining its denominator because time can be factored outside of it, hence order of operation restrictions would no longer apply as there are no operations remaining in the denominator of the larger fraction. Do it if you don't believe me because I know you won't want to.

As I have not heard back from zSprawl, I will assume that he simply convinced himself that he was right and the rest of the world is dumber than him. And as I know the rest of you are dying to pick this up again, I will show you all what he missed (though I think a lot of you already understood perfectly.) Admittedly, I did purposefully present it the way I did earlier in order to get someone to fall into that order of operations argument trap, as it is usually much more fun that way!

The original unit expression of daily value is shown here:

BTC --- Day ======= 1MH --- s

Notice how at first glance it appears to be reduced to its most simple form, but if you examine it closer you will notice that it includes two different time scales in the denominators of both the upper and lower fractions, one of which can be converted to the other, as 1 Day = 86400 seconds. After conversion it looks like this:

BTC ------- 86400 s ========= 1MH --- s

Then just multiply the entire expression by 1, which we can choose to represent as ((86400s/1) / (86400s/1)):

BTC 86400 s BTC ------- ------- --- BTC 86400 s 1 1 ========= x ========= = ========= = ========= 1MH 86400 s 86400MH --- ------- ------- 86400MH s 1 1

Because I recognized that this reduction was possible earlier, but did not demonstrate it visually, I was able to ignore order of operations for division, because there are no divisional operators in either the numerator or denominator in the expression's most reduced form.

In an effort to be perfectly clear, this is not to suggest 1 BTC / 86400 MH, but it is only the proper unit name for the variable amount of value paid in BTC for 86400 MH generated daily by a 1 MH/s miner. Earlier I had suggested that we call 86400MH a MegaHashDay, or MHD for short, but it is obvious no one wants to do that.

And in recognizing that I am not perfect, if anyone finds a problem with any of this, please do let me know. But do not try to make your case with a false analogy.