Quote from: DaveF on October 10, 2021, 07:47:26 PM

Question on this since I can't find the answer, in the EU is electricity priced as 2 separate things on your bill or just 1.
In most of US you have delivery charges which are what it costs to keep the power lines up, the substations running, the distribution network, etc.

Different from country to country
Here we have a monthly service bill, the bill for the consumed kwh, the transport charges, and a government tax, and then the eco-tax, which is made out of a tax for the mix of energy, a carbon tax, a renewable tax, and then we have VAT on top of everything.
It is a pleasure to go thouhg 5 or 6 pages of the pdf to see all of these.

In some countries, those are not detailed at all but it's more or less the same price structure.

Quote from: DaveF on October 10, 2021, 07:47:26 PM

It's great to show a chart that shows that country X had their power go up Y%. But without context it's just numbers without meaning.
Germany going up 20% or Estonia going up 19% means nothing if they just committed to massive infrastructure improvements that have nothing to do with the cost of generating power. Not saying that is what happened, just that I can't find any info on it.

Here is the cause for those 20%:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-12/germany-paid-record-38-billion-for-green-power-growth-in-2020
As for Estonia, the same path of madness, how to become an importer from being a net exporter for two decades:
https://www.icis.com/explore/resources/news/2018/09/07/10257649/icis-power-perspective-estonia-will-close-619mw-of-oil-shale-generation-in-2019

And meanwhile, the barrel of oil has gone over 80$.
I'm sure the sacred spirits of the bison warriors are sleeping peacefully now, with keystone dead and food prices for descendants skyrocketing.