Quote from: stompix on October 16, 2021, 03:30:54 PM

Quote from: DrBeer on October 15, 2021, 08:19:53 PM

One catastrophe is enough for me - the Chernobyl disaster. I would like to wish you with all my heart that you and your family never crossed paths with this evil ...

I did, so keep your sympathy to yourself, some parts of Eastern Europe were more affected than the east of Ukraine.

To be honest, I did not understand at all what does the east of Ukraine have to do with it Huh

The radioactive slick covered the northern part of Ukraine, then went to Belarus and further to Europe. The east of Ukraine did not suffer from the consequences of this accident!

Quote from: stompix on October 16, 2021, 03:30:54 PM

Quote from: DrBeer on October 15, 2021, 08:19:53 PM

One such accident is enough for many tens of years, many millions of people to suffer.

Let's add the sufferance of those who can't afford to heat their home and live like in the dark ages to this?
Let's add the sufferance of those who are unemployed because the factory where they worked had to shut down?
Let's add the sufferance of those who will not be able to afford food with these prices?
Let's count those deaths too, shouldn't we?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

Luckily for us even treehuggers seem to have 1% of their brain functional:
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-slashes-renewable-energy-tax-due-to-soaring-prices/a-59517333

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Germany's electric grid operators on Friday announced a reduction of the renewable energy tax by over 40% to ease the burden on consumers coping with soaring energy prices that are affecting Europe this year.

Let's cut the subsidies and the billions spent on these garbage soylent green revolution and let's focus on solving real problems.
Imagine that, just the renewable tax on electricity is twice as much as the price of electricity in some countries!

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The rest is all very touching ... In winter, if you look at the statistics, that with cheap fuel, that with expensive fuel, there is always more mortality. Yes, and guess what? Do not believe it - from hypothermia. Amazing fact!
I am sure that a massive decrease in consumption, with a decrease in temperature in houses and apartments to 20 degrees, will avoid problems and increased fuel consumption.

If you are so humane - yes to hell with that, let's feed everyone? Well, really - why do you need more than 1 pair of sneakers in your life? 2-3 T-shirts are also enough - just wash them carefully, in cold water of course, environmentally friendly - with sand or ash

But the money earned - send the money to the hungry people around the world to buy food, well, so that they also buy clothes for them, also at your expense ?
Or is such humanity not interesting? Or have I changed the emphasis incorrectly?
I will return to the Chernobyl tragedy - you can feed the hungry, warm the freezing, and hundreds of thousands in Ukraine alone who are sick and dying from oncology, as the consequences of this catastrophe, you will not be able to fix it. This is a sentence. Sick from children to old people. No options. No way out. Without the slightest chance ...

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