Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on October 24, 2021, 08:36:22 PM

Just like you can't prevent me from browsing through Tor, you can't prevent me from using Monero.

Sure, but here's the difference: Let's say the US government makes Tor illegal. I can hide the fact that I am using Tor altogether using pluggable transports and Tor bridges and all the rest of it, and continue to fully use Tor to access any and every website I want to. Now, let's say the US government makes Monero illegal. I can hide the fact that I am using Monero by running my own node over Tor and not linking it to my real life identity and all the rest of it, but what can I do with my Monero? No merchant accepts it. I can't use it to buy goods or services. I can maybe trade it peer to peer for bitcoin or fiat, but I can't use it as a currency.

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on October 24, 2021, 08:36:22 PM

Don't you find it hard, or at least a pain in the ass, to trace every citizen if they have so many options to retain their privacy?

As I said above, the vast majority do not retain their privacy. Even on here, a bitcoin forum which is supposed to be built on the principles of not trusting third parties, we frequently see people more than happy to send their private information to complete strangers to claim some scam airdrop, and we frequently see people (even some senior members) state something along the lines of anyone that is trying to mix or otherwise obfuscate their transaction history is obviously trying to hide something illegal and should instead just let the government stick their noses in to their bitcoin history. If that is the general feeling of bitcoin enthusiasts, then what do you think the general feeling would be among the wider population?

As I said above, the government don't ban Tor because so few people use it that their mass surveillance programs still give them the data they want. They don't need to ban bitcoin because so few people use it privately that their blockchain analysis still gives them the data they want.

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on October 24, 2021, 08:36:22 PM

Why would a government accept a currency which makes traceability so difficult to be achieved instead of introducing an e-euro which is fully centralized and controlled by them?

I mean, that's the route we are going. Pretty much every major government will introduce their own CBDC in the coming years.

Quote from: franky1 on October 24, 2021, 08:44:24 PM

however fiat going to one exchange account and then randomly another allotment enters you bank account from another exchange does flag as new income.

So lets say I buy $10k of BTC on Coinbase, send it to Binance to trade some shitcoins, and then instead of cashing out from Binance, I just sell my shitcoins to BTC, transfer the BTC to Coinbase, and cash out from Coinbase. My fiat bank sees money leave to Coinbase and come back in from Coinbase.

Seems a trivial work around for this particular issue, although if you are using centralized exchanges then the IRS have all your details anyway, so the whole process is pretty irrelevant at the end of the day.