Quote from: Cnut237 on October 09, 2021, 08:48:55 AM

Quote from: arielbit on October 08, 2021, 01:36:39 AM

you got fancy with "analogy" but the irony is you can't even "analyze" my point/topic, therefore you can't discuss.

the fact is.. you are just being evasive.

If the use of analogy is "fancy", then we've reached a new nadir. Reasoned human debate may no longer be possible. Shall we just throw faeces at one another?

I will spell it out. A thing can be effective without being 100% effective. No-one ever said that vaccines were 100% protective against infection. But they are, as the data indicate perfectly clearly, extremely protective against infection, particularly symptomatic infection. If you have been vaccinated, you are less likely to catch Covid. If you have been vaccinated and do catch Covid, then you are less likely to cough it out over someone else. Vaccination reduces the spread. This is not complicated.

I would actually question some of these breakthrough "asymptomatic" infections of people who are vaccinated. These are people who are not showing symptoms, but have traces of the virus in their sinus. The only tests that diagnose a current covid infection involve swabing the sinus, and do not involve any kind of blood work.

If Alice has covid, and coughs on Bob, who is vaccinated, there will likely be some covid infected droplets get into Bob's respiratory system and his sinus. The virus may live inside his body for a period of time, and may even reproduce while inside his body without the 'assistance' of his body. If Bob is tested later that day, he may show as being infected, even if the test picks up Alice's droplets. I don't know that this has ever happened, or if it does happen, how frequently it happens. At no point would Bob's body act any differently than it would otherwise act.

If the above happens, is it really accurate to say that Bob is infected?