Quote from: n0nce on November 02, 2021, 10:18:27 PM

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on November 02, 2021, 08:04:44 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on November 02, 2021, 06:06:02 PM

Yesterday: RNA can never integrate with DNA. Impossible.

Nice strawman. It's been known for decades that endogenous retroviruses exist, and indeed, up to 7 or 8% of the entire human genome is derived from virus RNA or DNA. The argument has always been that the vaccine does not cause reverse transcription and integration, and indeed the study you are quoting only shows that integration can happen with COVID infection, not vaccination.

So if you don't want COVID integration in to your DNA, time to get vaccinated.

It's funny, how they switch between these 'alternative' views on COVID:
1) Just a flu, your immune system can kill it easy peasy - vaccine contains chips and / or modifies your genome and is not needed to kill the virus.
2) COVID = incredibly high-tech engineered bio-weapon, super dangerous stuff, they want to kill us.

The spike protein genetics package has been worked on within the bowels of the 'defence' industry (and much of the elements of the work contracted out) for many years.

Typical for genetics work, once the genetic packages are worked out, pretty much any old carrier can be used to transmit it around. It would be counter-productive if the carrier (coronavirus, chimp adenovirus, etc) were a big deal.

In the 2020 cornavirus case, the infection was inconsequential and I've seen no credible information one way or another on it's reverse transcription rate. (Such studies will end careers unless they are doctored to align with the appropriate result.) It simply offered and excuse to jab people with the real bio-weapon which was the LNP goodie. That can be seen plain-as-day in the all-cause mortality figures from around the world.

Hundreds of millions of years worth of evolution have created a situation where the body can and does deal effectively with natural viral genetic contamination so the low (if any) death problems associated with the so-called 'covid-19 disease' have been noted. Numbers were normal for standard influenza. The excess deaths following deployment of the 'vaccine' bio-weapon, on the other hand, are notable, and that's not even counting the destroyed health instances where the victim has yet to die.

Quote from: n0nce on November 02, 2021, 10:18:27 PM

And on vaccines:
1) Just get COVID, it's much safer and more natural way to get immunity and vaccine doesn't even give good immunity.
2) Vaccination kills healthy people by the millions, never ever get the vaccination, they use it for population control and suppression of the population.

Agreed. And practiced although I have no idea whether I got infected or not. My estimate is that most people did get infected (within the first quarter or so of the release) and it was so mild for normal people that they didn't even know they had it. Re-infection seems to be limited mainly to those who became booster-junkies.

Quote from: n0nce on November 02, 2021, 10:18:27 PM

On sources:
1) These doctors are all corrupt and brainwashed by the education system; education = scam; we are way better researchers by reading random blogs on the internet all day
2) Look!! This one doctor agrees with us and disagrees with 99.99% of doctors worldwide, but he is clearly qualified to make such claims since he's a doctor! He must be right!
3) (what I call the 'epic fail') This source proves my point... ^{It does not, and shows e.g. that vaccine > infection} => this is what happened with the 'gene integration' topic as you explained.. Grin

I only pay much attention to people who will talk science and debate other scientists when there is a disagreement about the science.

Most vax-pushers remain anonymous and are referred to as 'experts' by the corporate media. The few that do not (e.g., that nasty little twat with the bow-tie) run from real scientists like McCullough, as though their life depended on it.

The standard excuse for the pro-vax cowardice is that 'debates are done through papers'. One thing I did learn since 2020 is how utterly corrupt the formerly 'respected medical journals' actually are. They quietly retract embarrassing content by the corporate pay-roll shill 'scientist' when the 'science' they produce is to embarrassingly wrong, and on the other side refuse to even evaluate studies indicating things which their owners clearly won't like to be seen.