Quote from: dragonvslinux on Today at 03:11:51 AM

So yes I've lived off shitcoins this year, those that have outperformed BTC and have no regrets. I'm acknowledging it might an issue in the broader sense however, one I don't advocate either, as it's just a way to earn a living. I get that some people here have to earn a fiat living to survive, and I get that it must suck to have to live off earning a government issued currency from your employer or from customers, but others here earn a satoshi living instead. It's controversial I get that, but please put your jealously, envy or resentment aside for a second and understand my original point...

I understand that you may be attempting to defend yourself, but surely you understand dragonvslinux that this is not the how to live off trading thread, especially worse to be getting into talk about trading shitcoins.. it just devolves, devolves and devolves. Fuck that nonsense.. take it somewhere else. Plenty of forums or even threads in this forum for that kind of baloney (and delusional) talk.

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Quote from: dragonvslinux on Today at 12:05:14 AM

This isn't intended as an attack on Bitcoin, but a realisation that altcoin dominance has become problematic to gaining older investors. This is simply what I believe. First the altcoin profits as well as liquidity need to move back to Bitcoin, as part of a Bitcoin season. This is what will give confidence to newcomers as to which is the most relevant cryptocurrency to invest in.

Fuck them relics, if they still don't get it after all these years we don't have the time to explain it to them!

Personally, I'll always make an effort for a 10% take on profits (never initial investment, that's just dumb). So many "relics" are desperate for information and advise, and how to gain BTC exposure, because they have absolutely no idea how to. Obviously Bitcoin will continue without them regardless, but personally I prefer to take the time to help these people, in order to help myself at the same time Wink

So far, I have 100% satisfaction rate from customers, mainly Millennials and Gen Z. But they are well saturated now, and know how to use the Internet. Boomers are the next target audience...

First of all... I doubt that anything is 100%.. whether you are talking about satisfaction or your perspective of your performance or any other marketing bullshit.

I do agree with your point of not necessarily closing yourself off from either people of differing views or the various kinds of value in keeping ongoing conversations with people who either view the world differently or who seem to have wrong views about bitcoin.

I do believe that some of your own perceptions of bitcoin do somewhat fog your conversations with some of your perception of the "elderly," and so of course, you can learn along the way when having those kinds of conversations- whether learning about some of the investment hesitancies of people who are older or who might perceive assets and markets differently or just learning how to present some of your own arguments better or to recognize and appreciate flaws in either your understanding or ways of presenting.

Surely, I feel that I learn from a variety of my conversations whether my posts on this forum or with people of various perspectives in the real world, and I have noticed that there is a lot of age-ist mis-framing bullshit out there, and sure some of the explanation could be age related, but some of the arguments and rationals for behaviors overlap, and just thinking about a conversation that I had recently with someone in the real world who had given up on bitcoin in the past few years, and part of the problem was that this younger person (late 20s) had gotten into bitcoin around four years ago (which surely would have been perfect to stay in bitcoin for that amount of time), and I had fallen out of touch with the person, and my recent interaction seem to have showed that the person got into bitcoin because of me, but lacked conviction to even continue to do the thing that I suggested which was largely either accumulate or HODL.. and so once selling takes place and even dabbling into shitcoins, there can be a lot of difficulties to come back into the right mental framework to even appreciate bitcoin, which might not even be an age or intelligence thing - but some negative experiences can skew people of any age.. especially if they do not develop enough of their own understanding to stick with the earlier conviction (which was not as present as I had assessed it to be 4 years ago).

I am not going to blame myself for that either because people do have to do their own research or even to continue to figure out why they got into bitcoin in the first place even if I had not been available to continue to hold hands (or someone similar to me), and when other friends are telling them how dumb bitcoin is and to sell and blah blah blah.. no conviction and selling at the bottom or even at a loss was way the hell out of touch of anything that I would have even remotely suggested (past or present).