Quote from: PrivacyG on November 17, 2021, 01:39:44 PM

My Nano S has been moving awfully slow after I updated it to one of the latest firmware versions. I can not remember precisely, but I think it was around six months ago. I used to navigate really fast through the menu before, but they seem to have added a button input delay which makes the Passphrase setup a pain.

They seem to have added a deliberate delay between button presses. It's noticeable also when you first connect the device and enter your PIN to unlock it. I remember reading about something like that in the past, but I can't find any source now to confirm it and I don't remember what reasons they gave for doing that. Have you checked in the settings menu if there is an option to speed it up? I will have to generate a new BTC addy later today so I will take a look myself and report back if I find something.

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 17, 2021, 02:07:52 PM

That is because all those 2 KB apps are just clones and forks of original coins, for example all you mentioned are forks of Bitcoin, and ETC, BNB and other crap are forks of Ethereum.

Yeah, I know that. I was just trying to show that it is still possible to have multiple apps installed if they are dependent on the stand-alone app. Dependent (Ledger's term) is nothing else than a fork.

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 17, 2021, 02:07:52 PM

My point is that their main Nano S selling point for supporting bunch of altcoins does not stand anymore, until they fix this or upgrade with some new device and I think they are working on something like that.

I agree, but I don't think there is much that they can do with the Nano S and its limited storage features. New updates take up more and more space and the Nano S looks like an old Celeron processor that is getting beaten by newer, faster, and better competitors.

Quote from: PrivacyG on November 17, 2021, 04:29:46 PM

Adding Bluetooth to the new device, which leaves an open door for potential attacks, and not learning their storage size mistake makes me presume their up and coming product will only get worse.

I didn't like the Bluetooth feature the moment I read about it. I look at it the same way as you do. A potential attack vector for the future. But what issues do you have with the storage space of the Nano X. Compared to the Nano S, it's been increased significantly!

Quote from: dkbit98 on November 17, 2021, 04:39:40 PM

I think that your information is wrong, Trezor won't release their new hardware wallet device before end of 2022, and they are working on their own Open Source secure element with Tropic Square.

His information is not completely wrong. The secure element is not going to be 100% open source.

In Trezor's own words:

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Together, we are building a new company: Tropic Square, the creators of the next TRuly OPen Integrated Circuit. This new entity’s purpose is to deliver a chip as open-source as possible.

https://blog.trezor.io/introducing-tropic-square-why-transparency-matters-a895dab12dd3
As open-source as possible means that certain elements of it will be kept a secret.