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TL;DR poo-pooing eth is justifiable, but it is a strong competitor that is not to be dismissed.

It is not.

Do you want to actually debate this statement, or like everyone else do you want to make a blanket generalized statement without evidence to support it?

Momentum in price is not evidence that ETH contributes anything.

since I am in favor of btc and NOT in favor of eth, what is there to debate?

We don't have to like it or acknowledge the existence of ETH, but I can tell you that while BTC will go to $100k or higher soon, in the same time frame we are also going to see ETH go to $10k or higher.

I too, saw it from the beginning, but decided not to buy any of it, or even mine it because I did not understand what it was supposed to do, or what it could achieve. What I do understand is that it is a platform for some smart contracts and all sorts of other things, and while I do not like the monetary issuance of supply and all sorts of other things about it, I know it's going to stick around for awhile, quite possibly long enough for many of us here to die of old age.

The "smart" thing to consider now is if you want to or can you make profits out of this or not, or are you willing to.

The maxi's inside of us (and around us) are going to stick to the "safety" of bitcoin, or that's actually the smart thing to do, stick to bitcoin. Don't bother with anything else no matter what their numbers say. No one understands them, and the guys who think they do, a lot of them lose money anyway.

About the only thing even considered smarter than this, is to simply buy and hold them if you want to play with different allocations among shitcoins. Buy and hold some BTC. Buy and hold some ETH. Hold for 5 years. Do not day trade or whatever. With the understanding that there is the possibility you will lose whatever you put into any shitcoins, including ETH, but you will most likely profit from just holding bitcoin for longer than 5 years.

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So the biggest most "feature rich" centralized chain will be the ultimate enemy of bitcoin. Whether that is ETH, a CDBC, or God forbit some sort of combination.

Bitcoin's biggest problem is it is not well understood by not only the masses, but even it's faithful. It is misunderstood why it is important. And why ETH is fundamentally NOTHING LIKE IT. in fact it's opposite ultimately.

Exactly, so we need to study it and possibly improve bitcoin (if it is possible) to counteract centralization.
Also, you are right; it NOT the eth per se that is important as the opponent, it is the ideas of arbitrary tweaking that are completely not-bitcoin.
For crying out loud, they made a brand new chain that is FASTER (no other worthy features and super-centralized) and, already, it has the monetary size of 10% of bitcoin with VCs pushing it.
As far as how to do this "fight", I am not sure. Probably, mostly via increased usage and improvements in the ease of use.
BTW, I respect the cashing-out, but the talk about it does not really help bitcoin's case, since then the ultimate goal is fiat accumulation.

Bitcoin has one feature that is very similar to gold and is REALLY detested by financiers: it has NO yield.
Of course, it has been so far an appreciating asset, so the yield might be unnecessary.