Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on December 19, 2021, 07:42:11 PM

Out of curiosity, I went and had a look at the Ledger Privacy Policy, since I've not paid it any attention in some time. It's worse than I remember, or perhaps it has become worse since I last looked at it.

Exposing IP location to manufacturer like ledger is one thing, but using this data and sharing it with bunch of their partners is big red flag for me, especially if wallet address can be connected with that.
It's possible that other devices are doing something similar, but I know that Trezor Suite have built in Tor privacy option.

Quote from: DaveF on December 19, 2021, 09:42:52 PM

As I posted above, the issue is not us, it's them and everyone else that uses & promotes them.

That is true, ledger have big list of affiliates, youtubers, influencers and they all earn money whenever someone purchase ledger device with their link.
Nothing bad in doing affiliate marketing if you are honest about specific product and you don't hide stuff like this, and I never heard anyone talking about this issue.

Quote from: DaveF on December 19, 2021, 09:42:52 PM

I spent wayyyyy to much time the other day pointing out why someone I know should stop using his ledger, I might as well been talking to my cat for all the progress I made with him. But I tried. This is just another thing we will have to talk people out of.

I probably spent more time creating bunch of ledger related topics in bitcointalk forum, not because I hate them but because I want to show the full picture.
For example, when you look at their website reviews is all roses but if you check Trustpilot ledger reviews you will see something different.

Quote from: Hispo on Today at 01:00:56 AM

Bitcoin, an open source protocol should only be managed with open source wallets (in case of holders), if not what is even the point then on trying to be one's own bank while trusting there is not a hidden back-door? Sad

Exactly, and I don't know what's the problem for ledger to open source everything, so that we could all contribute making a better product and stop with speculations about backdoors.

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 10:23:08 AM

Knowing your exact location and your exact balance, while having a history of leaking customer data, is just plain scary.
It's as if they have an interest in selling $5 wrenches!

Combine that with previously leaked customer information, maybe some hidden NDA with government agencies, and you have a big horror story just waiting to be revealed.