Quote from: crwth on December 25, 2021, 11:58:01 AM

The balance that I received and converted to PHP

The second pictures adds up to 0.14500002BTC, so I assume it included 0.00050002BTC of your own funds. This turned into 244,846.31PHP.

For the other receipts: can you specifi what it was for?

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For the receipts, I did manage to recover some. The thermal paper in supermarkets always has this tendency to fade right away.

It's folded too. Can you decipher as much as possible, to clarify what's on there? The total looks like 112,836.50PHP, which makes up a large part of the total amount spend. If that's covered, it's a good start.

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You know, I was really trying to help because my intention for this is good and to be tied up and accused of different stuff feels so demotivating.

Even though I think you probably deserve the benefit of the doubt, the fact that there is reason do doubt is on you, for not keeping accurate records.

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I do hope to continue this and possibly with better guidance at the helm to prevent this situation again. Together as a community, we aim to be better and help a lot more people in the future.

I'm curious: what's your opinion (now) on the way cabalism13 and bL4nkcode handled this?

Quote from: Coin_trader on December 25, 2021, 12:22:01 PM

your labor fee

I don't think there should be a "labor fee" for a charity created by a community. If there is, it would make the ones running the charity basically employees, and even though I know that's all business as usuall for the large corporations that pose as charities, it doesn't seem right for a community.

Quote from: Pffrt on December 25, 2021, 02:17:03 PM

By the way, such images can be easily made up, faked or what's not?
You have provided some receipts, do they really prove anything? I really don't think so.

Receipts can always be faked up to a certain extend, but what other options does he have to prove anything?

Quote from: suchmoon on December 25, 2021, 02:26:01 PM

I've been sitting on the fence here (very uncomfortable) and honestly can't figure out what crwth is accused of. There were pictures provided of activities that seemed legit. I don't think the original thread promised detailed receipts.

All fair points.

Quote from: tranthidung on December 25, 2021, 02:45:18 PM

However, it already happened. I don't think it is good to ask for all receipts for purchases months or 2 years ago.

It shouldn't have been necessary for the community to ask for receipts, I would have expected the escrow to collect those.

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I don't expect such transparent things when I donate my money to charity.

I barely donate to charity, and one of the reasons is the lack of transparency (Steve Hughes has a point).

Quote from: The Pharmacist on December 25, 2021, 09:22:02 PM

What does the holiday season have to do with any of this?

I can imagine people have offline obligations during those days.

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there's been ample time for all of them to respond in this thread.

Fair point, cynical me would ask if it was intentional for crwth to post this on Christmas.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 25, 2021, 09:39:31 PM

Three scrunched up receipts from eleven months ago. Two are hand written with no contact details and a vague letter "C" as if that's supposed to explain all.

As far as I know, that is quite common for receipts in the Philippines. I find it strange there's not even a business name on the receipts, but even in the Netherlands I've been handed similar receipts in the past.

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@LoyceV - was it really necessary to give this person four merits for a Covid test receipt and three vague hand written receipts (one of which is for *bags*?) from eleven months ago. ?

I think the response of one of the accused users is worth reading. Feel free to continue this discussion here.

Quote from: dkbit98 on December 25, 2021, 09:40:08 PM

they never promised to have detailed reports whatsoever

This was promised:

Quote from: cabalism13 on March 25, 2019, 05:42:02 AM

Updates, Activities, Images will be posted here as soon as we have conducted such activities.

Do you think the posts after the large donations were sufficient?

Quote from: suchmoon on December 25, 2021, 11:46:17 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on December 25, 2021, 08:02:16 PM

I still have mixed feelings about it, it's at least very naive not to keep accurate records.

In hindsight, with the ~2 BTC - yes.
~ Let's say you give $100 to someone halfway across the world and the person provided e.g. a picture of a happy crowd with what could be $100 worth of groceries in front of them, is a receipt going to change anything?

Agreed. For $100, that's great! And after the large donations, things should have been improved but the opposite happened: there were less posts about how funds were spent.

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Without being there in person you have no way to verify it so comes down to trusting - or not - that person with the $100. And if you didn't ask for a receipt to begin with, you'd be an asshole to start asking for it a year later.

True, but nobody is asking for the $100 receipt. I don't think anyone doubts the charity was run very well at that time.

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Anyway, with the somewhat spotty evidence provided I have no reason to believe that crwth is at fault here. There seem to be significant amounts gone to the other two guys, so there is probably more work needed to untangle that part.

Agreed.

Quote from: Royse777 on December 25, 2021, 09:38:50 PM

I am giving crwth my benefit of the doubt.

Quote from: Poker Player on Today at 04:20:19 AM

there are several things that make me think that crwth deserves the benefit of the doubt

I also think crwth deserves the benefit of the doubt.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on Today at 06:11:24 AM

it's an online wallet that both crewth and cabalism13 use

I don't think it's a secret many Filipinos use coins.ph.