Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on Today at 03:13:13 PM

However it may be a good idea to increase it in the far future as even the closing and opening channel transactions will cost a lot. All I'm saying is that we should not rely on it. It's clear enough that you can't fit the entire population in a decentralized system. You need off-chain solutions.

Quote from: franky1 on Today at 01:42:04 PM

people deposit gold(btc) in the early day into vaults(contract locks), get to play with a payment system of IOU banknotes (millisat promises).

With a very significant difference: There's no trust. In those days you're referring I had to trust the bank, that they'll do what they say with the IOUs. At the moment, I don't have to trust anybody. I'm the bank. I can broadcast my force-closing channel transaction with none's permission any time I want.

again you are confusing the LN payments (private playful conversations in bed with the wife) vs the settlement contracts..(divorce papers)
please try to learn the different contracts.

Quote from: franky1 on Today at 01:42:04 PM

they dont care about bitcoin.

You don't care about bitcoin as the only thing you're trying to do is to force us agree with you. You don't want dialogue, you don't want consensus. Haven't you yet understood what's the purpose of bitcoin after all?
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funny part is that im not the one telling people to f**k off to other networks. thats not consensus.. thats exodus