LN is a different network for a reason. it has its own usecase and niche and utility that differs from bitcoins.
I can live with this 
@franky1: If I create a self-moderated topic (Lauda called me Switzerland for being neutral; I won't delete any of your posts, but I will call you out if you go off-topic), are you willing to engage? I expect it will be "you vs a couple of other users", but from what I've seen, you can handle yourself. I would like to discuss your points on LN that I've seen in far too many different topics, and it would be nice if we can reach consensus on at least part of the discussion.
I don't think Meta is the right place to discuss the details of LN.
i can engage.
and out of respect i will even take my own advice and step back from the computer between posts and take some breathing time between posts, and avoid just hitting reply to rage reply.
if others can do the same. and answer without shining their bias/advertising PR stance, and respond rationally and thinking outside their small box. then great
it could actually lead to some proper dialogue