Quote from: franky1 on Today at 02:45:30 AM

as for not answering 14 unbiased quick summary questions.. silence is revealing
i have respect for LoyceV atleast he made an effort to answer summary questions

In that case, here's my effort:

Lightning:

1. When the sender and recipient are both using bitcoin, LN is supported by the Bitcoin blockchain and can be freely discussed in the Bitcoin Discussion board.
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2. When the sender and recipient are both using altcoins, LN is supported by that altcoin's blockchain and should instead be discussed in the Altcoin Discussion board.
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3. LN payments are denominated in 11 decimal places.
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4. LN payments are different contracts/transactions/lengths of data, to a bitcoin transaction.
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5. The Bitcoin network does not recognise 11 decimal places
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6. LN can function on other compatible blockchains, but if a discussion is taking place in the Bitcoin Discussion board, that means the discussion is about LN as a layer on top of Bitcoin.
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7. When people are discussing LN transactions supported by Bitcoin's blockchain, it is against the forum rules for anyone to be derailing that conversation to talk about LN transactions supported by other blockchains, unless it is an atomic swap that involves bitcoin.
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Consensus:

8. Any developer is free to code what they want.
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9. Everyone will be free to run any code they choose.
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10. If enough people run code with different consensus rules, change can happen even if a minority disagree.
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11. If you run code which is incompatible with the code a majority of users are running, you can be disconnected from the network.
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12. Features implemented by soft fork can be considered "opt-in" and you can continue to remain part of the network even if you don't want to use those features.
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13. If you are unhappy with the current consensus rules, there is no onus on any Bitcoin user to surrender to your demands.
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14. If anyone wants features which are wholly incompatible with current consensus rules, it is reasonable to suggest they consider looking at other projects geared towards that purpose.
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In an attempt to get the topic back on track, everyone feel free to provide your own responses as above.