Quote from: opieum2 on March 25, 2014, 11:54:35 PM

Quote from: sirminesalot on March 25, 2014, 09:35:01 PM

Quote from: opieum2 on March 25, 2014, 08:31:13 PM

Quote from: Augusto Croppo on March 25, 2014, 08:19:54 PM

You see above, Bruno? They are desperate to you go. Do not fall for the trick. There is no guarantee you will even receive the promised 20 BTC. Do not put your psychological health under the influence of crooks. It is a trap to control you and got away with fraudulent scheme being perpetrated since 2013.

Something tells me you are the black PR they are referring to. You seem to be the only person posting here that is against this. FYI I think its been REALLY well established I am not from AMT. Or one of their shills. Even the people who initially thought that including Phin have pretty much been convinced of that. I even provided some info that has started a snowball of info that others have provided. Who are you anyway? You seem to jump into this topic every 10 pages or so and say something completely useless.

Thats trolling. Provide him a very compelling reason to not go. Otherwise go away. AMT is footing the bill for this so its on their dime. He will obviously know the second he has the plane tickets that its legit since he is going to need them to get there. So at least they are making the effort. But I am wondering about you specifically since you seem to actually just pop in randomly and say nothing of value.

How about this? Provide a well written and detailed reason as to why you think Phin should not go. Right now all you say is they crooks and frauds....that may be. BUT That is the point. Phin was invited out to go prove exactly that. So far he has been honest with the community. See no reason why he wont be after this. Also it shows another thing. AMT is looking to clear their name at least. Their buisness practices might not be the best, but if they are now working aggressively to turn it around that would be good for everyone. Again a good reason why he should not go. They paying for it. They paying 20btc for him to just show up and put any doubts down.

If some of your other posts are any indication you are against bitcoin to begin with so why the hell are you even in this forum at all?

I also read portugese (which I notice you tend to write in at times) and about 6 other languages without the need to use google translate. All you post is scam scam scam and bitcoin is a joke. You sir are the definition of a troll. Maybe you are working for the banking cartels who are looking to undermine bitcoin? Maybe we need to start looking at you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=457930.msg5627578#msg5627578

Seeing this statement pretty much sums up your position and should question why you are even on here at all. EVERYONE here wants to make bitcoin a success. BUT their issue is with a vendor right now. Are you concerned? Sounds like if phin proves things are legit, then there is nothing for you to stand on. I have seen some of your posts on various threads doing this exact same thing claiming its all a scam. I get there are people who have this patholgical need to be skeptical of everything. Skepticism is good to a point. I for one want the truth of this matter. And phin is the first person who has been able to get an open door invite to check things out and get the info we need.

And here you come with useless comments. Or contribute a very valid reason why he should not go.
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STFU with that bullshit. NO ONE HERE is paid to bad mouth AMT.

As if someone NEEDED to be paid to point out all the bad business practices performed by AMT.

Jesus, will you believe everything they tell you? They are fraudulent and grasping at straws to continue delaying and conjuring up new excuses.

Their offer of 20 BTC sounds more like a bribe to have Phin come back and say "all is well!" I don't believe this shit for one second. They can dish out 20 BTC to merely meet a forum member, but they can't payback those asking for refunds? This is such a crock.

Oh I agree, they should be paying back the people they said they would. They have shown they are not good with their word. Consistently. Which is why I think it makes even more sense we have someone go out there and check it out. If we are getting miners there should be a huge pile of miners being built there. Phin will see that and can report on that. Also he might get a picture of things that we simply just arent getting through this forum. Trying to play devils advocate here to a point. But I am looking at it objectively. Those requesting refunds have an absolute right to have gotten that money back despite their "policy" change that they just announced. Its not in their legal terms so that is not valid until it is.

But getting Phin out there IMO is the best thing to sort out some things. I think he would best represent us out there. I dont believe anything anyone tells me. But when someone who comes on here once every 10 pages says a couple things and then dissapears only to inject some more unsubstantiated nonsense, yea I gotta question that. Hence why I asked if he was one of the black PR people. They do exist. That much I know. In this thread thats another story. But there are people who are paid to do specifically that to other companies. Its actually quite a standard practice in Chinese markets. But it doesnt hurt to ask the question when its clear that something doesnt fit. And Augusto Croppo popping up suddenly and stating like admiral akbar "its a trap!" just seems really off. Fact is they set themselves up in a bad way if they did set some kind of trap.

I just think it's pathetic that someone like Phin would need to travel out to AMT for the community to have peace of mind. The fact that Josh is acting so dense and ignorant, doesn't sit well with me. It's obvious what information and pictures need to come out. This whole thing has gone to shit and with AMT being so inept, the best course of action is to NOT WAIT and start filing against them.

+1 for the ROTJ reference