Quote from: Erdogan on Today at 07:51:52 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on Today at 07:43:43 PM

Quote from: Erdogan on Today at 07:25:40 PM

I think there is no hope that 1xbit will pay you anything.

First honest thing you've said in a while.

Quote from: Erdogan on Today at 07:25:40 PM

Another example that despite the fact that subsequent accounts of cheaters are blocked, they do not stop trying to cheat 1xbit[/color][/b]

Blah blah blah, when an honest sportsbook gets cheated, they fix whatever exploit was used so it can't happen again.

At this point I'd bet that the majority of 1xbit revenue comes from seized funds.

I have a different opinion about this. My theory is confirmed more and more. Here I wrote about it:

Quote from: Erdogan on January 25, 2022, 04:48:42 PM

Quote from: meilihua on January 25, 2022, 01:09:34 PM

Strange but I can't understand. As far as I see, there are two main types of claims - xbit holds all withdrawals (including deposit) and xbit holds winnings only. As far as I understand, this relates to cases when players break rules. However, on the other side, I can't understand why there are not many complaints about this case with other casinos or bookies that are also presented on BTTalk. I don't believe that xbit is a complete scam, but still can't understand why so many people are complaining in this thread and other threads with other gambling sites have no complaints at all!

One of my assumptions is that the vast majority of complaints that appear on Bitcointalk are made by few people who operate multi accounts and are continously trying to cheat 1xbit.
This assumption is due to the fact that the modus operandi is very similar:
- complaints refer to almost the same (you noticed it yourself)
- most of it is live betting on tennis or table tennis (I'm sure there are other possibilities as well, it's just the most popular sports for cheating)
- the way of writing the text is very similar (capital letters, grammar, arrangement of texts, preparation of screenshots in advance, very good knowledge about other complaints etc.)
- behavior in response to posts (for example, using very similar primitive insults)
- similar amounts of money (mostly between $500 - $800)
- spam - check history of posts of this accounts
Spam that they make everyday from around 10-15 accounts makes it seem like there are hundreds of complaints, and in fact, it's just the same complaints coming in over and over for months.

I think that some time ago, someone found a way to cheat 1xbit (later maybe sold that method to others). 1xbit has improved security and is now better at catching cheaters.
Note that when cheater is caught, his deposit is returned, so he don't really lose anything. He just sets up a new account and tries to cheat with this same money again, but anyway he can accuse bookmaker.. It makes that with every new account he can make new complaint.
The problem for the cheater is when 1xbit discovers that this is his new account and he already withdraw equivalent of deposit from his other account.
1xbit does not want to show evidence of how detected cheaters, so as not to simplify bypass security for them.
Scammers are angry that they have been caught and they don't even know how, so they attack 1xbit with complaints out of anger. (or maybe because they can not sell anymore their method of cheating)
These are just my assumptions, but after about 7 months of observing this thread, I am firmly convinced that I am close to the truth.

Edit. NOT ALL complaints are made by cheaters! However, in my opinion, most come from them.

I am a bit surprised that despite the clear evidence for what I have described, you do not even admit that it is possible ..

Also two accounts are made from my brother computer in another place. two accounts are different and they made the same scam.
I just wanted to show you that 1xbit is cheating so much so i am so angry and make another account just to see if they cheat agan. ANd now I am writing from my two acounts, the same story. i deposit there money, and they scammed me without any winnings. This is the worst bookmaker i have seen i my life. I dont know why this still exist. There is no point people to deposit here money, because all money are stolein when deposits of money. I dont know why you are suppporting this. I jsut make deposit form my another account and you block login. And my winnings form totteham is the same, I won money you block accout. And now i didnt win money, you even not back the deposit.
this is biggest scam on internet.

377494827 - form this account they stole from my all winnigs from my game tottenham won premier league highest league in world they make void and not give me the winning 1100 usdt fraud!

Then I made another account and deposit little money just to check if they fraud again, and they scammed me again so it seems this is the scam, big scam and deposited money are stolen because they are little money and they steal all money.
381691321 - from this account they steal all my deposit, not even given back my deposit total fraud.

And because on my first account I win so much money, they make void my games and because they don't want to pay that sum of high money they make all void. And form anotehr my account I lost 2 games and I deposit 179 usdt, and left 148 usdt on my account,, they just close account without any return of deposit money.
Why you not return deposit on that account? because was in minus ? because I have little money from my deposit? because you are fraud? because you don't want to give deposit money? haha just ssaw big scam here