Quote from: contactmike1 on March 26, 2014, 04:38:39 PM

Based on the chat log, id guess some three letter agency has siezed the funds. The puzzling piece is what type of siezure would require a gag order? Perhaps dhs seized the funds and a nsl occurred to seize all the data.

Quote from: jbreher on March 25, 2014, 03:48:11 AM

OK, perhaps there is a gag order in place. Let us posit this. However, in the US, the only gag orders where the target cannot divulge the existence of a gag order (at least to my knowledge) is an NSL. OK, let's posit there is an NSL in place. If so, do you really think DHS would allow the target of an NSL -- known to have access to $Millions -- to travel unchaperoned to Cyprus? Really? Can you say flight risk? Sure. I knew you could. Throw that red herring out.

If there was an NSL, the DHS would not have allowed Ukyo to fly to Cyprus. The NSL is (believed to be) the only type of gag order where the target is not allowed to divulge that a gag order is in place. Ukyo has not unambiguously divulged that there is a gag order in place.

My conclusion is that there is no gag order, and Ukyo is being coy on the point simply to cloud the issue, and try to build plausible deniability.

All to try to avoid we marks from coming to the most likely conclusion - which is that Ukyo has stolen $Millions from us.