Quote from: David Latapie on March 27, 2014, 12:46:17 AM

Quote from: Miner232432 on March 27, 2014, 12:25:01 AM

Then you cannot include Mint and its premine, you either are fair and include any with premine or exclude all premined coins including Mint

To allow one and exclude all others on this principle present a critical flaw for what you are trying to achieve by not being biased.

It also would exclude Noble which is by far the most VAS exclusive coin currently in circulation

I am OK with giving mintcoin an unfair advantage. This is mintcoin's dev who planted the seed of a foundation in my head. Privilege of the first. All long as it is known to everyone... As I said, I really want mintcoin to stand apart in one way or another, as a tribute to where the fund come from.
Other option: we allow premine but with extra scrutiny regarding the sincerity of the devs. This will take time and could be unsecure but as long as people are ready to do it, I'm fine with it (I noticed that a lot of project fail because of the lack of motivation or human ressources - so diluting ressources to investigate the "cleanliness" of a premined coin might jeopardize the whole project).
I will probably create a process for acceptance. The said process could easily integrate a "premine investigation" part. This would make integration longer, but otherwise should be fine.

On which ground would you exclude Noblecoin? I only know this coin by name.
I just created VAS coins. This is an empty spreasheet where you can propose coins.

Quote from: deadmanwalking on March 27, 2014, 12:32:37 AM

Well, first let me say I never said anything about leafcoin...

That must be me getting confused. Apologies.

I had to look it up just to know what it was..maybe you confused me with someone else? I did suggest throwing some funds behind green energy projects.

Quote from: deadmanwalking on March 27, 2014, 12:32:37 AM

Second- Unfortunately, I don't understand your vision. I do view other coins as direct competition, and hold the opinion that Mint is superior. This I have been vocal about.

Really, I guess it will be up to the community.

Exactly. Anyway, I propose we don't talk much about the "umbrella aspect". Just see it as a possibility.

Isn't blackcoin against NobleCoin, and Mintcoin, and basically every other coin it perceives as competition (all coins)? This is the feeling I have gotten from spending time on all of these forums. I like the idea of working with other coins, and I have been trying to quell some of the hostility between mintcoin and blackcoin myself. But, the blackcoin community hasn't expressed any desire to work with any other coin- quite the opposite they are always talking about destroying all the coins in their path, and how much better they are than every other coin. And they've also never expressed any desire to take an environmental or humanitarian position.

Recently, from the BC forum:

Quote from: Rofo on Today at 12:03:20 AM
"For all those wondering why your payouts in BC are so poor on the amazing new multi-pool, it's because they sit on NobleCoin when we're the 30th+ most profitable. A few of the BC community as well as a decent amount of pump & dumpers on Twitter despise NobleCoin, so if you're looking for good returns for your hashrate you won't find it there." /endquote