Quote from: lumbanrang on Today at 02:20:22 PM

Quote from: Eltharion on February 18, 2022, 06:41:34 PM

Quote from: lumbanrang on February 17, 2022, 03:28:13 AM

Quote from: Eltharion on February 16, 2022, 10:24:45 PM

US betrayed the Afghans once again and many US close allies are afraid that this can happen to them too.

Betray what? did you know that America has spent more than 2 trillion dollars on this useless war? when America decided to leave Afghanistan it was the wisest decision they could make. America has betrayed no one here. From the beginning, America was involved in Afghanistan to take their revenge on al-Qaida. This caused security chaos in Afghanistan and America helped Afghanistan to solve this problem. But after nearly 20 years of a meaningless war, Afghanistan has not changed, so America left Afghanistan, especially after the Taliban declared they were ready to run this country, America was determined to leave this country. So America doesn't betray anyone here.

The US handed over Afghanistan to the Taliban, a terrorist organisation, and noone from the public even knows the details of the Doha contract they signed, and left a mess behind, to say the least, under which primarily the Afghans are suffering. On many occasions US sacrificed Afghan lives for its own short term gain, like freeing suicide murders at the request/or under the pressure of US for some US cause. Does these not fulfil the conditions for betrayal? or do you have a different definition?

It wasn't treason, America was simply withdrawing from a meaningless war, it wasn't anything wrong. However, in the eyes of US veterans, especially those who have fought in Afghanistan they feel betrayed, they find it difficult to accept the fact that America left Afghanistan https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2021/11/12/anger-betrayal-and-humiliation-how-veterans-feel-about-the-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

It was not a responsible withdrawl, more of a betrayal. The US army left Bagram in the middle of the night after turning all lights off, without informing anyone from Afghanistan and the scences from Kabul airport, you might remember also ... US was perceived as friend in the early 2000s and now almost everyone hates them -> because they feel betrayed ... because the US gives a damn F about the agreements it signed. I don't understand why you mention people connected to US as victims. We know who the real victims are, the kids, women ... living in Afghanistan.