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The way I see it, there are three different cases of two different situation here.
1. The banning
2. The withdrawal restriction
3. The default of lukemac123

I have to side with them on the decision to mute and ban you under the accusation of spamming and begging for money --and multi accounts that I think people will universally agree that it is uncalled for. Even if you defended that you're not begging for money and instead asking for your loan to be paid, objectively speaking, it's a case of tomato-tomahto.

Both the site owner, the chat room community, and the website themsleves are not facilitating or directly invoved in your loan, the transaction happened between the borrower, lukemac123, and you. Thus, the dispute should be done internally and it is not necessary --more precisely, dreadfully not wanted-- to bring this to the web's chat that specifies the rule of "no begging". For this case, I think you actually do violate their ToS.

For the case of withdrawal restriction, from what I gathered from the pieces of information you gave --which also rather scattered here and there-- they'll agree to unfroze your assets once you agree to stop talking about your banning, or if we re-word them to be a tad bit lengthy but more specific, they'll unfroze when you stop begging for your loaned fund on their chatroom --which ToS has a rule about this-- and got banned for it only to create another account to repeat the process. Again, I think it seems fair.

As a side note, bustabit has their official ann thread and Daniel has an account here. In attempt to hear the story from their side about this whole "they laughing at me" and deposit issue, I'd notify them about this accusation.

Lastly, for the case of unpaid loan by lukemac123, it actually should be a whole separate topic. You have two different --yet simulataneous-- situation here, with bustabit on account freezing, and with lukemac123 for defaulted loan.

Nonetheless, if we have to addres them, just like bustabit, the harsh truth is, there were nothing this forum can do about it, unless if they have an account here and you know their UID. If you can bring enough evidence of the defauted loan, namely the tx receipt of you lending your money to them that's never paid back, the account can be tagged and --if necessary-- flagged.

It is a common knowledge that lending funds to people --let alone those you only met online and barely knew-- poses a risk of default. That is why you need a collateral.

the loan is what caused me to be muted but I’m not worried about the loan. I’m pointing out how my funds are frozen and won’t refund me that’s all. The situation with Luke is almost a year and ever since then I’ve been muted by just playing the game literally. Now he’s took it personally and just ignoring me asking for a refund. Also when anyone speak up on how unfair I’m being treated they get muted too. He doesn’t want me speaking up. He can just just refund me and tell me never come back and I’d be happy !

No, what caused you to be muted is not the loan, it's your persistence to spam their chatroom begging for money --to be paid back, true, but we've established that it's a tomato-tomahto-- which violate their ToS, as evidenced by your own proof, archived here in case we needed them for some reason.

As for the refund --well, actually... I read them for the whole case-- I decided to dedicate my time to read their ToS page, archived here by someone from one and a half years ago so we can conveniently ruled out the idea --suppose there's this wild idea popping out from nowhere-- that he recently modified their ToS specifically for you.

You might want to read what you've actually agreed to, multiple times:

https://i.ibb.co/xjMPh4t/DnW.jpg

Terms number 4 specifies that the site owner has every right to temporarily halt withdrawals if he deemed it necessary for the funds' safety or for other important reason. The important reason being used as the base here, which they'll be justifiedly took, is the violation of chat rules --no begging for money-- and a disruptive behavior --spamming the chat room-- multiple times.

https://i.ibb.co/M1fP5V4/Chat.jpg

You also inadvertently violated point number 3 --although they only discourages it and not prohibits it-- by dealing with other players.

I've PMed devans to give his side of the story and to see if he has a special policy and decision for you. Let's hope he would come here to give us another side of the coin. But, the way I see it, removing the case number 3 --the defaulted loan-- as you've said it didn't worries you, they took a rightful action that you've agreed to.

you’re judging everything based off a loan that was years ago. If you want to say I broke the rule by loaning. There’s so many people would’ve been had their accounts frozen. People talk about loans all the time I can send proof of that too but they’ve never been through what I did secondly I never spammed in public or private chat. I think you should read everything carefully. There’s no safety concerns over my own deposited money that’s fraud holding it. There’s no special policy that should be for one person that’s like signaling one
person while everyone else can do it. That’s wrong. You can’t pick and choose who the rules applies to and that rule you stated has to do with funds that is probably not confirmed. I’m the only one that ever went through this ever. And all I want is a refund so I can stop going to the site. Noting states I can wait 3 months in his policies either so why does he want me to wait 3 months for my money when his site doesn’t say it. Just refund me

also what I stated earlier when I was muted it says I should be able to meet the wager to talk on the accounts he said. I never spoke to anyone. After I deposited the money I realize I couldn’t play/withdraw what I deposited / tip anyone. Without any warning or emails. Why allow someone account disabled to deposited without any notice ? That’s one red flag there my last account he realize I had more than 30k deposited funds and when I had 6k in it. He froze it again without any warning just so I can message him. The only thing I did was used shiba bot to check balance of funds, bitcoin worth etc. Ryan explain it would be nice if muted users could use shiba. That’s the only thing I did. Nothing crazy to have my funds frozen. So he should refund me and tell me if I ever come back I’d be banned