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Are you saying this from experience or only by definition? If I told you I meditated and left my body, would you tell me what I experienced wasn't real, even if I said it was?

Yes. It is by definition, not real.

"Hallucinations involve sensing things while awake that appear to be real, but instead have been created by the mind."

You either have to accept that it was a hallucination, or decide that it wasn't a hallucination and was in fact real.

There is no such thing as a 'real hallucination'.

Do you accept that experience of the hallucination was real?

The experience was really created by the mind. It existed.

It was not real.

Scientifically, this is the only thing that makes sense. The mind is powerful enough to deceive the self, especially when having an NDE. The curious thing about NDE's is that the experience is always consistent with the person's religion. ALL NDE's are different. If there was one religion that was correct all the others were wrong, then shouldn't all NDE's be very similar? But they aren't. And NDEs are very powerful hallucinations, so powerful that indeed the person thinks they are real. I can say all this, and if I have an NDE, I also might convinced it was real.

Everything you see is manifested within the mind. If you experience it, it is real. NDE's are more real than life itself because when it comes to it, life is an illusion we create in our heads.