Quote from: Smartvirus on March 05, 2022, 07:33:51 AM

Quote from: Ratimov on March 03, 2022, 01:50:33 PM

Quote from: noorman0 on March 03, 2022, 11:53:47 AM

Just my personal opinion, it's plagiarism. Two people may have the same thought but it is unlikely (nearly impossible) to describe the thought in the same exact words in one place. And from his post history, before voting he never wrote the word "1xbit", which means there is no supporting reason for the vote given (unless he has an implied reason).

Thanks, I think I'll send a report to his post. Let's see what the moderator decides.

I've gone through a few of these and on the count of the quite above, non of these guys as presented by Lovesmayfamilis, all these guys are defaulters and guilty of the plagiarism rule and as such, its only expected that the rule applies. I might seem to understand why the forum tries to handle these newbies or beilginners with some tenderness and give a temporal ban but I say this, it makes no difference from a permanent ban and I think the permanent ban is much more effective.

When these newbies arr given a permanent ban, it sends a direct message on how strict is the forums stands on this rule. With the rules being clearly stated in the pinned post, ignorance is not much of an excuse. Most of all, when these users gets a banned, they still go about creating alts of which, they are very much aware of what would become of there alt should they plagiarise. It only takes the foolish once to be follow the same part and not expect the same harshness.

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I honestly agree with all you said, but we can also try to look at this from another perspective, banning a newbie permanently on their first offence is not ideal and is rather too harsh if you ask me, we all pray for a second chance when we fail at something we really want or love.
We should ask ourselves, how many of this newbies actually read the rules of this forum before they begin posting?
You know, like it's commonly said, "the best form of judgment is to put yourself in the other fellow's shoe", I use myself as an example here, when I first joined this forum, I started posting right away, I didn't know neither did I read any forum rules until about six months later, I never got banned though,(and this is why it took me so long to finally read the rules, getting a ban would have forced me to go through the rules) because I never broke the rule even though I didn't know what the rules say, so ironically, I first temp ban came some months after I've read the rules, then, I knew what I was doing was against the rule, but I went ahead to do it anyway thinking the mods wont find out, and of course they found out and I was lucky to get a temp ban, that served as a lesson to me and I never tried to go against the rules again.

So what am I saying in essence?, a newbie who breaks the forum rule might not have read the rule to know what it says, so the mods can give them that benefit of doubt and ban that user temporarily, the temp ban will force the user to read the rules, and ones the ban is lifted, if such user is sensible enough, he or she will definitely not try to break the forum rules again, but if such user still goes ahead to break the rules even after the first temp ban, then such user can be permanently banned.
Banning a newbie permanently on their first offence will only encourage one thing, and that is ban evasion, which is also another offence, so I think it better to temporarily ban on first offense as a warning and a pointer to the user to read the forum rules and regulations, then on the second offence that same user, then he or she can be banned permanently.