Quote from: Bind on October 27, 2011, 08:55:26 AM

Quote from: Hawker on October 27, 2011, 08:03:50 AM

Bind, you are kidding yourself. There has never and will never be a legal system where you can opt out of obeying the law.

I understand your stance on things.

I simply disagree.

What binds us to those statutes ?

Give me something ... anything other than, "because big bad men with guns said so", or "thats what you are supposed to do", or "because thats how it is".

I can not accept those.

There has to be something somewhere stating we must give up our rights and freedom for benefits and privilages, especially when the very law you worship is lying when it says all the stuff to the contrary.

The only possible excuse is that our entire existance is a complete illusion, that we truly have no freedom or liberty at all, its a huge Matrix of lies and deceipt meant only to give us the appearance of freedom and liberty, and we are no different than the slaves and subjects of old.

I refuse to accept that without anything ... even one line of writing somewhere canceling out the declaration of independance, the constitution/bill of rights, the maixims of law, the universal declaration of human rights, etc.

That's like saying "I never agreed to the law of gravity. There has to be something somewhere that says I gave up my right to fly."

As humans, we are born into societies and and if we do something that harms the society, it will defend itself. In the example of the guy without car insurance, he ended up paying his fine. Opting out is not available as a choice in court.