Quote from: BitchicksHusband on March 29, 2014, 11:32:32 AM

Quote from: AnonyMint on March 28, 2014, 09:46:40 PM

aminorex, compliments to your superior communication skills. Okay back to TA now. I am done. Thanks for the discussion all.

Quote from: BitChick on March 28, 2014, 08:33:27 PM

The reason he hates sin so much is sin really is anything that causes harm to others.

What do you do when you can't do anything without harming someone. It is impossible to never harm someone due to the Butterfly effect. You are basically asking for gridlock and communism.

I call BS on that. Although your intentions are good, the recurrent outcome of your stated ideology is horrific genocide which is the antithesis of your intention. As far as I can see, the Bible doesn't talk about not harming (although harming shouldn't be and helping should be an individualized goal but not a global requirement, e.g. I can help someone individually whose situation I know), rather it pushes the value of individualism and focusing on what you can do rather than judging others (c.f. Matthew 7). The point of the 10 Commandments is that individualism is destroyed by disrespecting property rights. Then you need a government (idol) to enforce (collective) theft.

When the Bible says there is only one King and only one law, what it means is a one-on-one relationship between you and your creator (c.f. Matthew 6:5). For scientists and atheists, let's look at this from the perspective of knowledge spawns accretively from individual fitness to individual situations. I got more in depth on this when I was working out the type theory of computer languages (yeah I know you wonder what in the heck would type theory have to do it). Here is the link:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21msg/scala-debate/vysv97J0xok/ikiNtik33QsJ

Matthew 22
37 Jesus replied: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.[c] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself.[d] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.

Sin is harm to yourself or others. If you love others, you won't do it. If everyone truly loved everyone else perfectly, there would be no need for laws. This is what Jesus said right here.

The point of the 10 commandments is that disobeying them leads you to harm others. If you disrespect your parents, lie, cheat, steal, kill, covet the things you can't have, you will become an evil person that harms others.

Adam Smith and John Nash show that fallacy of your Butterfly Effect argument, as they prove that when everyone does good to each other society profits greatly and everyone gets wealthy.

Equally well spoken. (probably more so)

I am not christian, nor particularly religious in the omniscient being sense of the world. Though in line with my thinking on everything else: who can possibly know.

I know love is the most important thing though. Sometimes I get it right, sometimes I get it wrong. Just gotta keep trying.