Quote from: Snowshow on Today at 05:37:13 AM

Anyone can write down a number a name of a non-existent thing and then clam to owe it. I can write down to own 10 Ferraris. Satoshi, via his software, can write down that a miner's address owns 10 bitcoins. Someone else can counterfeit $10,000 dollars and claim to own bank debt. All that would be false information. If I would keep insisting I own 10 Ferries, while only pointing to what I wrote down, that would be called a delusion. If I would do that publicly, that would be spreading misinformation.

If it's this easy, please do it and show how you did it. Don't worry, it's not spreading misinformation, if it's possible, it's a bug in the system and it's totally your right to exploit it. Also, if it was this easy, someone would surely simply do that (in secret or now); yet somehow I still own my own coins.

The thing that you don't understand and cannot understand without educating yourself about cryptography and signatures: you can't just write another number next to your address.

When you claim that we can't 'show the BTC assigned to our address', it's a strawman argument. That's because we don't prove ownership by 'showing the number of BTC and the corresponding address', but we prove ownership through a cryptographic signature that only the owner can provide.

Quote from: n0nce on March 22, 2022, 08:38:43 PM

Quote from: Snowshow on March 22, 2022, 06:02:32 PM

A guy with 18,000,000 attached to his address, and a guy with 0.00000001 attached, can both show only keys and math symbols.

That's the point: these 'only keys and math symbols' do hold value. You seem very confused, because you keep going back and forth between 'you guys just show the number e.g. 5BTC but not what it points to' and 'keys are just math symbols'. Those are two different things. Both are wrong, but both are different. Are you even aware of this? It would be beneficial to know what we're discussing about, because (1) is completely wrong and easy to understand, while (2) gets a little bit more interesting.

Quote from: Snowshow on March 22, 2022, 06:02:32 PM

Nothing else. There's no difference between them. So, what is your point? On what did the first guy spend 1.2 trillion dollars?

Just because two cryptographic keys are both 'math symbols' doesn't mean both need to have the same value. It's like saying 'your shed and this skyscraper are both building, lol why would this stupid guy buy the skyscraper for $100 million when he can buy a shed that is also a ~~'math symbol'~~building and only costs a couple grand?'

Quote from: Snowshow on Today at 05:37:13 AM

I am not confused. I am simply stating the fact that none of you are able to show a thing whose name is bitcoin, and whose quantities are written next to your addresses. That's all.

Except we can. It's called cryptographic signature.

Quote from: Snowshow on Today at 05:37:13 AM

That's why you're focused on ad hominem attacks. Talking about my motivation, education and knowledge. I am having real fun here watching what people are capable to do or say just to justify false narratives and misinformation. I am viewing this as some sort of psychological experiment.

I don't attack you, I'm stating the obvious. You are talking out of your ass and embarassing yourself with your ignorance. Harsh reality, but it is what it is. Some day you might understand; or you will end up dying in your ignorance. It's up to you though; you seem not to want to learn & understand, instead keep hammering on your arguments based on wrong, naive assumptions. I don't keep my hopes up.

Quote from: Snowshow on Today at 05:37:13 AM

As for your false claims. You bought nothing with bitcoin. You transferred fake numbers to people's addresses and these people transferred the ownership of the existing things to you. Why the people did that? Probably because they are the victims of misinformation that bitcoin is an existing thing.

What even is buying? Transfer of ownership. I transferred ownership rights of some amount of BTC from my secret key to the seller's secret key, while he shipped me a product. That's the definition of buying.
Again, if you can 'just transfer fake numbers to someone's address', why don't you do it? You keep saying that it's so easily possible, but I'd like to see you do it.

Quote from: Snowshow on Today at 05:37:13 AM

I don't have opinion on bitcoin, I am exposing misinformation that bitcoin exist. I am proving that the numbers written down by the Satoshi's system are not the quantities of an existing digital thing but fake numbers.

That's wrong though; you have no, zero valid arguments why the 'numbers should be fake'. If they were, what stops you from generating such 'fake numbers' for free, yourself?