Quote from: tailor on March 29, 2014, 07:46:34 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on March 28, 2014, 07:29:24 PM

Quote from: tailor on March 28, 2014, 05:25:47 PM

A living example of a strawman setup by the original poster Cheesy

The post I responded to, which you later edited, simply responded "Don't bother" to Zapffe.

You are talking about me, engaging in strawman... I dont think so... I am just engaging in a conversation.. and I am suggesting reasons why Zapffe seems to be wasting everyone's time and NOT contributing... but anyhow, I am basing on a set of communications with him... Yes, I could be proven wrong that he is in fact a good contributor... but in my experience with his various posts, he seems to admit that he is NOT really contributing in any kind of meaningful way.. of course, he does NOT use those words or come to that conclusion.. but whatever, if posters admit that their purpose is to just spread FUD, then what good are they? NOT MUCH>.. and accordingly, they should be removed, expelled, etc... .. .

Of course, I have NO power or authority to influence how much trolling is tolerated by the forum... and they come to their own judgements regarding whether posters (members) are contributing to the forum

You missed my point completely. I replied to your original post before you'd edited it, hence the strawman. Perhaps I should have said moving target. Either way I simply meant my response was meaningless when set against the edits.

That said, who defines "contributing"? Those holding BTC and not wanting to hear anything that suggests money might be lost? Those looking to short? Bears? Bulls? Dinosaurs? Trolls (aka, anyone holding a viewpoint different than one's own)? Everything said is a contribution in this cesspool - at least any lurker probably thinks so.

You seem to be engaging in your own various strawman creations by striving to create various points to argue with me about seemingly NON-issues...

Are these arguments meaningful to the thread or enjoyable by anyone reading the thread or a big waste of time for me to continue to engage in such? who knows? I am willing to entertain you a bit, though... to the extent that it makes some sense to go down these various rabbit holes and your various points do NOT get too lost into some attempt to argue over minor details.. such as saying to me "you changed your post." So what? I did NOT change my post after I read your message I changed my post about 5 minutes after I made it and before I read any responses to my post... so who cares if I changed my post after I had made it? apparently, you care.. b/c apparently, you invested some time into responding to the earlier variation of my post... I am sorry about that, but it was NOT my intention for anyone to spend extra time responding to my later revision... . but in the end, is this really an issue to pursue? Seems a bit trivial to me.

Also, in my subsequent post, I expressed my opinion to suggest that some kinds of behavior is NOT contributing to this forum or this thread in any kind of meaningful way. Ultimately, administrators decide what is contributing and what is meaningful and what is NOT and whether they believe that the posts or the members are helpful to their forum/thread.

Obviously, I do NOT agree with your assessment that everyone is contributing NO matter what they post.. .but does it really matter what I think about that.. it is my opinion, and I have NO authority in this forum... except maybe to the extent that I MAY be able to convince someone with authority about my point of view regarding contribution and/or meaning... and I DONT even really know who those people may be without maybe researching into it. I believe that creator(s) of threads have some authority over their thread and then there are various moderators assigned to certain thread areas who would also have some authority. Also, I believe this forum is fairly tolerant to various kinds of expressions, but they do seem to ban some members, as well..