Quote from: be.open on April 03, 2022, 06:38:09 PM

There was a fake in the maternity hospital, there was also a fake in the theater, why is it not a fake here? As Hitler said in Mein Kampf, "The more monstrous the lie, the more likely it will be believed." According to another version, this is a quote from the Goebbels manual, but radish horseradish is not sweeter. Apparently, the Ukrainian media follow the precepts of their ideological inspirers.

So, everything what goes against Russiaan narrative is fake? I still remember how Russians lost in their lies about hospital in Nariupol. First, Konashnenkov from Defence ministry said that it was fake staged by Ukraine, a bit later Lavrov said that hospital was base of Azov.

Quote from: Veleor on Today at 05:15:43 PM

The 24-minutes interview with Marianna Podgurskaya (Vyshemirskaya) was published two days ago. - https://youtu.be/IEJ9xG6-Va0 (in Russian)

This video is edited and cut so much that I would be sceptical about things said in it. And as I understand, she is in Russia, so, in fear of her own security, she may say what they told her to say. BTW, she isn't actress ajnymore like Russians accused her first?

Quote from: be.open on April 03, 2022, 06:38:09 PM

There is also the problem of the eight-year genocide of the Russian-speaking population of Donbass, who held a referendum, exercised their right to self-determination and decided to become independent, and then asked Russia for recognition and assistance. Russians do not leave their own in trouble, so now Russian soldiers are fighting side by side with the forces of the people's militia of Donetsk and Lugansk.

That referendum and these self proclaimed states is a joke. Such referendums is worth nothing. You simply can't make referendum in one region of country and announce independence. It goes against constitution of Ukraine. Such questions should be solved in referendum made in whole country. Same stuff about Crimea.
And about "genocide" - Russia is responsible for it. Until 2014 people were living in peace there, until Russkij mir didn't came.