Quote from: be.open on Today at 03:28:22 PM

The Belarusians fired their Tochka-U missiles at the joint exercises, it's true. The flight range of Tochka-U is 120 km, it will not fly from the territory of Belarus to Kramatorsk. Tochka-U is a good powerful missile, but obsolete, rather slow, and it flies along a ballistic trajectory, although it can steer a little towards the target, for example, to compensate for gusts of wind. If it was not shot down (and the rocket in Kramatorsk worked normally), then by the location of the tail section relative to the epicenter of the impact, it is easy to determine where it came from. Moreover, on the tail section there is a serial number of the missile, by which you can accurately determine which military unit it was in service with. You are not interested in such trifles when you are sure in advance that you are right, right?

Good point about flight range. But about that Russia don't use Tochka U anymore, it's lie. For example, this system were shown in May 9th parade in Korenovsk last year:
https://t.me/uniannet/45503
And about serial number of missile, such thing isn't public and any army never will not announce such things in public. So we won't know this, unless independent investigation will be made.

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According to some characteristic features of this launch, such as one rocket taking off before the second from one point, I can assume that Iskander-K is operating in this video, it has a dual launcher. Tochka-U usually also work in pairs, but from two different installations and with a synchronous start. In this case, it appears to have been a single strike, because there were no reports of a second missile at Kramatorsk.

I'm not military expert to be certain to say what type of missile we see in this video. But do we have reports of Iskander hitting something yesterday? And from reports, it's visible on photos that missile landed in north-east direction, what means that it arrived from south or southwest. Shakhstark is directed in south from Kramatorsk

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I don't comment on conspiracy theories. There are easier ways to determine the culprit of what happened - for example, check the serial numbers on the tail of the rocket or analyze its trajectory.

4, is conspiracy theory indeed. It might be true, or just coincidence. But 3, isn't conspiracy. How they can announce such message before it actually happened. And using tool for scheduled post - it's possible that this message was prepared much earlier.

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And the reasons for provocations under a false flag are very simple - Ukraine needs to continue to keep the attention of the world community at all costs, so that there are new deliveries of weapons and financial assistance from the West, and the West's sanctions pressure on Russia intensifies, even if it already hurts the West itself.

If something happens against Russian agenda it's false flag attacks from Ukraine. Nothing new from Russia. But usually it's just conspiracy theories without any proffs and it doesn't amkes much sense.