Quote from: be.open on Today at 04:46:47 AM

Quote from: paxmao on April 11, 2022, 12:28:16 PM

Putin's army has not reached Air Supremacy. Not in the first weeks, not now, the main reason is that Ukraine still holds a decent anti-air capability, recently increased by the way. Putin cannot use the aviation at will, that is certain simply looking at the evolution of the war.

This S-300 complex was destroyed yesterday by a high-precision weapon strike. A refutation was received from Slovakia with reference to the statement of the Ukrainian side, but in the conditions of a full-scale information war against Russia around the world, the unfounded statements of the Ukrainian side are worth about zero. Yes, Ukraine still has remnants of air defense, and it even seems that they really managed to knock out a couple of low-flying K-52 Black Sharks with Stingers, but in general, the Russian aerospace forces feel quite comfortable in the air over Ukraine and every day the pilots perform their combat tasks. The big surprise of the Russians in this operation, which made a sensation on military resources, is the X-31PM anti-radar missile with a range of 300 km. If an aircraft with such a missile detects enemy radar radiation, the enemy no longer has a radar. The remnants of the air defense of Ukraine are forced to work almost blindly, turn on the radar for a short time, change positions, and use other tricks. But in the end there is no continuous zone of observation.

Quote from: paxmao on April 11, 2022, 12:28:16 PM

On top of that seems like your "modern warfare" manual is outdated. There are quite a few wars in which air supremacy was undisputed but in which countries resisting with asymmetric tactics, difficult terrain, urban warfare or simply a population that does not accept the invaders ended up in long wars that were not "won" nor even marginally by the aggressors. I would not class Vietnam as "modern" but it would be a clear example, with no doubt about who had the air advantage.

It is not outdated, it's just that NATO soldiers do not know how to fight. Let's be honest, NATO instructors do an excellent job of training sabotage teams. And when NATO instructors begin to train soldiers from third world countries, instead of sabotage groups, for some reason, gangs of terrorists usually turn out. Grin

Quote from: paxmao on April 11, 2022, 12:28:16 PM

Quote from: be.open on April 11, 2022, 08:08:29 AM

Quote from: af_newbie on April 11, 2022, 07:23:02 AM

So why do Russians execute Ukrainian civilians now?

Remember one simple thing, and if you have a bad memory, then write it down and read it every day before breakfast instead of morning prayer - a Russian soldier will never shoot at civilians, he will rather shoot at his commander who gave him such an order. Therefore, absolutely no one in Russia believes in cheap Ukrainian propaganda fakes, it is simply impossible because of the peculiarities of our mentality....

It must be then be only army in the world that does not have (or creates) psychopaths. So all the buildings, nearly all Mariupol and all the area around Kyiv was assumed to be fully empty of civilians when shelled? Interesting that you consider your view "sober understanding of the situation" and say this a few minutes later.

In urban battles there are always civilian casualties, unfortunately this is inevitable. Russian soldiers do their best to minimize them, even if it increases the risks for themselves. I'm talking about the fact that the Russians never deliberately kill civilians, realizing that in front of them is a man without a weapon. I am sorry if for some this statement seems far from reality, amazing news or some kind of revelation. There is not a single country in modern history where Russia took part in armed conflicts, and where Russian soldiers would be seen in some atrocities or inappropriate behavior towards civilians. Even in Afghanistan, local residents still warmly and respectfully treat Russian soldiers, although there are areas where a civilian is a civilian during the day, and in the evening he is a Taliban fighter.

Quote from: LTU_btc on April 11, 2022, 10:42:05 PM

That's serious statement, but far from reality. If Russian soldiers aren't shooting at civilians, then who killed all these civilians in Ukraine. And please don't say again about fakes from Ukraine. How you can deny these proofs of Russians shooting civilians that were filmed on video. For example women on bike from Bucha. And nothing surprising that Russians don't believe in cheap Ukrainian propaganda. They prefer to believe in expensive Russian propaganda.

An international investigation is already underway in Bucha, but everything is clear as day there. The national police entered the city and organized a purge of "collaborators", killing everyone who did not have a blue bandage on his arm, and especially those with a white one. Yes, even shooting a video about it, which they then tried in vain to remove from the network.

It is interesting that the provocation in Kramatorsk was quickly hushed up after the serial number of the Ukrainian missile surfaced. Shame on the killers of civilians, these Nazi degenerates and drug addicts will all be demilitarized and denazified soon. It is a surreal nonsense and at the same time a reality when the civilians of Mariupol say: I heard "Allah Akbar!"* and crossed herself - Thank God, the Russians have come.

*Chechens from the Kadyrov regiment, who are actively involved in the cleansing of Mariupol, are Muslims.

You really do not know what is happening in Ukraine.