Quote from: LTU_btc on April 13, 2022, 09:29:55 AM

Quote from: be.open on April 12, 2022, 04:46:47 AM

An international investigation is already underway in Bucha, but everything is clear as day there. The national police entered the city and organized a purge of "collaborators", killing everyone who did not have a blue bandage on his arm, and especially those with a white one. Yes, even shooting a video about it, which they then tried in vain to remove from the network.

I like how you changed your position about Bucha. First you said that it was fake made by Ukraine when they carried out dead people to the streets to show it to foreign media. And now you're saying that they made purge of collaborators.

I think it was like this. The national police of Ukraine entered the city and staged a cleansing operation, killing everyone without blue armbands (there are boys without blue armbands, can you shoot at them? - otherwise, damn it), and especially "collaborators" with white armbands. Then, in the propaganda department, they decided that it was possible to make a good picture on this, beautifully laid out fresh corpses, dug up a mass grave with the fallen soldiers of the Ukrainian territorial defense, and they were also added for quantity. And they passed off the cleansing of the national police as a brutal massacre of Russian soldiers.

Quote from: LTU_btc on April 13, 2022, 09:29:55 AM

If something goes against Russian narrative, just blame Ukrainians, even if all proofs goes against you. About that video with shooting in Bucha, it's clearly visible that tanks have V letter used by Russian forces. Even Peskov was caught on interview. So, then he simply started to defend himself that it was fake.

With a cyclist, this is a different story and it is rather strange. I already expressed my opinion on it above, perhaps the Russians considered his behavior strange and saw the threat of a terrorist attack, because I see no other reasonable reasons to shoot several times from a 30mm cannon of an airborne combat vehicle, and then from a tank at a man on a bicycle. I hope the international investigation, which is currently underway, will restore in detail the picture of the tragedy in Bucha.

And what about Kramatorsk? I see everything quickly calmed down there after the serial number surfaced. Provocation failed? But there 50 people died from a missile strike with cluster munitions on their own civilians. An ugly story, it would be nice to deal with it and punish the perpetrators.