Quote from: be.open on Today at 02:39:32 AM

I think it was like this. The national police of Ukraine entered the city and staged a cleansing operation, killing first comers without blue armbands (- Boн пaцaны бeз cиниx пoвязoк, мoжнo пo ним cтpeлять? - A тo, бля!), and especially "collaborators" with white armbands. Then, in the propaganda department, they decided that it was possible to make a good picture on this and blame the Russians.

From this video, I hear ''попробуй'', not ''A тo, бля!'' Any way, this video proofs nothing. And today I saw reports on Telegram from Mariupol that Russians forcing civilians to wear white armbands. Though, I'm not sure how reliable information it is

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And what about Kramatorsk? I see everything quickly calmed down there after the serial number surfaced. Provocation failed? But there 50 people died from a missile strike with cluster munitions on their own civilians. An ugly story, it would be nice to deal with it and punish the perpetrators. However, I think that the direct executors have already been demilitarized, Russian intelligence officers in the field work well and Russian missiles hit right on the target.

Like I already said, these serial numbers doesn't prooves that missile belongs to Ukraine. Few examples. Here is Tochka U used by Ukraine in Snezhnoe in 2014:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cV17MkoOsw. And here is video of Tochka U used by Russia in Syria. If you pay attention to serial number, difference between these tow is just 25 digits and it's very likely that these missiles were made during Soviet times when Ukraine and Russia was one country.

Quote from: suchmoon on April 13, 2022, 11:17:00 PM

Quote from: https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3456892-ukrainian-military-hits-russian-cruiser-by-neptune-missiles.html

The Ukrainian military has hit the Russian cruiser Moskva by Neptune missiles, causing serious damage to the warship.

BTW allegedly that's the infamous "Russian warship" from the early days of the war.

Edit: unconfirmed report of distress signal and eventual sinking. ~500 people on board ("completely evacuated" is likely bullshit too) and a massive blow to the Black Sea fleet and to Putin's ego.

Finally this Russian warship it's famous point of destination. It's big hit for pride of Russia. Just in 2020 it completed repair and maintenance, probably worth of millions.