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This is a fiasco.

Fiasco...

Two types of Russian fiasco's, one they should be ashamed of and the other is laughable.

Özdemir warns of hunger crisis

“Food and Agriculture Minister Cem Özdemir also called for an increase in arms deliveries. He warned that otherwise there could be a global hunger crisis. “We have received alarming news from Ukraine, where Russian troops are apparently also deliberately destroying agricultural infrastructure and supply chains,” “ https://globeecho.com/news/europe/germany/von-der-leyen-demands-rapid-arms-deliveries-to-ukraine/ (and many others)

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Russia Shows Off Crew of Sunken Moskva Warship—With Quite a Few Missing

Russia’s Defense Ministry released a brief video on Saturday of the head of the Navy meeting with crew members of the sunken warship Moskva, as social media posts have surfaced that appear to confirm at least one death on board.

In a 26-second video—the first public appearance of the crew since Moscow admitted the country’s most powerful battleship had sunk—Admiral Nikolai Yevmenov is seen meeting with crew members in Sevastopol. About 100 sailors can be seen, although at least 500 were on board at the time the ship went down after Ukrainian officials said they successfully struck it with at least one Neptune missile. https://news.yahoo.com/russia-shows-off-crew-sunken-213308080.html “

Losing at least 400 sailors and a massive 600+ foot battleship to what amounts to American 4th of July fireworks, what a fiasco.

As said on my previous post, loosing one of the three Slava class ships, which do have quite decent defences in place, in which seems like a well though, but frankly not too complex attack (a couple of sub-sonic missiles and, what appears to be some minor distractions) goes beyond a simple local success. For me it may (I am saying may) reveal:

a) The US intelligence service is collaborating with Ukraine to a very large extent, even when planning strategies and tactics.
b) The US intelligence service has in-depth understanding of the naval defence systems on Russian Navy and seems to have analysed their weaknesses perfectly.
c) Putin cannot put any short of faith in a sea launched attack or support.

There are a number of news that may still be awaiting Putin's troops. The last shipment of US aid was undisclosed in content and the training of Ukrainian troops in new tactics may bring very nasty surprises with it.

On regards to Mariupol, the Azovstal installations are like a city inside a city. There is a network of tunnels and hidden storages that make a frontal assault nearly impossible. Shelling has also a limited effect and only the Ukrainians know how many reserves may they hold. Eventually it may fall, but it may consume time an resources at large.

As for the soldiers, the ones in there are not the type of soldiers that expect anything better than death from Putin's psychos.