Quote from: be.open on Today at 04:07:27 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on April 18, 2022, 06:31:13 PM

Quote from: Veleor on April 18, 2022, 04:37:01 PM

4. "30 biolabs developing military geese and pigeon corps".
You distorted the original statement of the Representative of Russia to the United Nations Vasily Nebenzya. On March 11, he made the statement:

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The Russian Federation’s military became aware of a programme that has the goal of studying
the possibility of spreading infections using migratory birds, including H5N1 and the Newcastle disease.

Apparently, you have reason to be sarcastic on this topic if you have studied the materials presented by the Russian side and if you are a professional infectious disease specialist in order to completely eliminate the bacteriological threat from that 30 labs in Ukraine. Can you share your expert opinion in order to break the arguments of the Russian side on this issue once and for all?

A twofer - burden of proof / tu quoque. The Russian side presented a load of bullshit to put it mildly. There are plenty of fact checks on that, such as:

https://www.bbc.com/news/60711705

This is a weak argument - a reference to a month old newspaper article when you ignore the latest statement at the chemical defense briefing, with serious allegations, documented evidence and confirmed facts. Here are the slides from this briefing.

Quote from: TwitchySeal on April 18, 2022, 01:07:31 PM

Quote from: be.open on April 18, 2022, 09:14:20 AM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on April 18, 2022, 08:46:02 AM

You know there are Nazis in the US also right? And they are also against the liberals and their cancel cultutre, virtue signaling, main stream media, lgbtq rights, etc...

There is a nuance, the Nazi battalion Azov is part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as a regular unit. Before you publicly justify the Nazis, think twice - whether you are fighting in the wrong direction.

And how are you justifying the Nazis leading and fighting for the DPR and LPR? These are Nazis with actual political power with Putins full support. What's the difference in Russian Nazis and Ukrainian Nazis? (Other than Russian Nazis have political office and Ukrainian Nazis don't)

Good question. I think the logic "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" works here. At present, the status of Donbass in the eyes of Russia is the independent people's republics of the DPR and LPR, with which, at their request and on their initiative, treaties of friendship and mutual military support have been signed. Until February 21, 2022, this was an internal affair of Ukraine, in fact a civil war and genocide of the Russian-speaking population of Donbass, who were forbidden to speak their native language, and when they did not agree with this, they began to shoot, kill and did it for 8 years right in the center of Europe. And the Grad attacks on Donetsk on February 22 were already the aggression of the Armed Forces of Ukraine against an ally of Russia, to which Russia reacted with its own special operation, which we are now discussing here.

Russia is a multinational country and condemns Nazism, at the official level it is a policy of zero tolerance. Far-right nationalist groups in Russia are extremist and operate outside the law, this is working for the special services. It seems that the FSB already had questions to the head of the LPR about his public statements, I hope this will soften the intensity of the rhetoric. The community of Russian people is supranational.

Quote from: LTU_btc on April 18, 2022, 07:50:41 PM

Quote from: be.open on April 18, 2022, 06:25:36 AM

As Zinaida Gipius said, "if you need to explain, then you don't need to explain".

So, ok, Arestovich said this stuff about Zelensky few years ago. There was lot of things said about him before and after elections from public person in Ukraine. But does all these things matters now after few years?

If you listen to Arestovich a lot, then Ukraine is doing much better now than a couple of months ago. Buried alive in the Azovstal bunker is also a victory for Ukraine, of course.

Quote from: LTU_btc on April 18, 2022, 07:50:41 PM

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Maybe you want something fresher? The 52nd day of the special operation, President Zelensky of Ukraine appears to be pretty drunk or under the influence of drugs. The video seems to be a deepfake, but the link is to Zelensky's official Instagram lol.

What a classic Cheesy

. Zelensky addicted to drugs or alcochol. Putin already called Kiev as gang of drug addicts, nothing surprising that you use this nareative.

That is, it doesn’t bother you that the president of Ukraine is a drug addict and an actor from the series about the president, doing some kind of game and all that? Grin

Putin is using the young soldiers of Russia, sending them to die with the only intention of further stealing the resources and freedom of others. I encourage you to leave the keyboard and take part in the fight, you can see for yourself all the "greatness" of your country at the moment.

Russia could as well condemn officially orange juice and still drink it everyday. While Putin's Russia "condemns" Nazis is actually acting as such and generating hate against Wester Europe, the US and many of the minorities living on Russia while threatening the world with a nuclear attack. Facts are facts and words are wind.

You seem to be saying that being an actor is something bad? Must I remind you that Ronal Reagan (president of US) and Arnold Swatz... (whatever) gov. of California where both actors? You may not be aware, but actually being a leader is a role that requires communicating and inspiring. I know that in Russia you cannot choose you own leader, please do not take it on those who can.