Quote from: dkbit98 on May 01, 2022, 08:52:05 PM

Quote from: nopara73 on May 01, 2022, 01:59:48 PM

Yes, because it's a scam. No privacy, just marketing. Whirlpool is not on the same level. Unlike Wasabi or JoinMarket, it isn't trustless. Using them you trust a third party with your privacy.

I never said it's a scam, for saying that you would need to show some proof, and I didn't hear a single case of anyone in forum getting scammed by using Samourai wallet.
Should I also consider Wasabi wallet to be a scam just because it's ignoring to mix some coins?

Quote from: nopara73 on May 01, 2022, 01:59:48 PM

This is a fundamental privacy leak, which just makes the two wallet not even comparable. However the problems did not end here, I think they can be deanonymized by other means, too, but any discussion comparing the two should.

I never uses Samourai, and I know they have some privacy issues, but at least they are not blocking any addresses from mixing.
Attacking each other in current situation is just waste of time in my opinion.

I didn't mean to put words into your mouth, sorry. I claimed Samourai is a scam, and explained the reason why: it markets itself as a privacy wallet while it has very bad privacy. People who use it are promised privacy, but they don't get it. Samourai users are the victims of the Samourai scam. In contrast, zkSNACKs is not lying about its blacklisting. No dishonesty there, therefore the definition as a scam does not apply. I'm sorry, if you feel this to be an attack, these are factual statements. The truth about Samouarai is so disturbing that I'm not sure how to put things more mildly.

If you don't believe me or don't get it, you can check out how Gregory Maxwell (inventor of coinjoin) and Chris Belcher (inventor of JoinMarket) put it:

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.msg51128834#msg51128834
- https://mobile.twitter.com/chris_belcher_/status/1345176372474425348
- https://mobile.twitter.com/chris_belcher_/status/1345176039874564097