Quote from: witcher_sense on May 05, 2022, 12:45:29 PM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on May 05, 2022, 11:46:18 AM

You're not getting the right context, and missed the actual point completely. If you're merely a casual user/newbie who simply wants to use a mixer without the risk of tainting your coins, where can you go? What can you use?

Every time a casual user or any other type of user sends bitcoin or receives payment on their wallets, they are risking to taint their coins. Using "compliant" CoinJoin pseudo-privacy solutions like Wasabi Wallet won't help them escape being touched by dirty coins and will make things even worse because, from the standpoint of chain surveillance companies and other parasites, any CoinJoin transaction is always more suspicious and risky than any non-CoinJoin. It is because they deem suspicious everything they can't trace.

You're right, and a tainted wallet owned by a nefarious user can send dust to thousands of other wallets to taint them, but that reply also got the debate out of context. I believe everyone is just trying to debate the debate because they disagree with Wasabi's new policy. From an idealistic standpoint, I understand, but from another standpoint, it's a trade-off. Users with tainted UTXOs can always use other mixers.

Quote

Quote from: Wind_FURY on May 05, 2022, 11:46:18 AM

Although you're also right, the simplest and most efficient solution for users who are, not criminals/have nothing to hide, are not mixers but centralized exchanges.

A centralized exchange is the simplest and most efficient way to swap your clean coins for taint coins legally.

Can you tell for sure that all 100% of user deposits of tainted coins will not be confiscated by centralized exchanges? Is it 100% without risk to use the dark market to sell Heroine and send your UTXOs directly to Coinbase?