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Again, if there's value in the system why all the bitcoin holders must run out of that system to benefit? Literally every bitcoin holder is proof that bitcoin system is worthless.

Because it is the same for every currency. You can never benefit from a currency if you do not trade it, it does not matter if there is some kind of value (like debt) stored in it or not. Or how can you benefit from holding a 5 dollar bill that you are not able to trade for something?

But I just showed you that traditional currency is debt and from debt people benefit when debt is paid by borrowers, so they benefit from within the currency system.

Let me now try again: if there's value in the bitcoin system why all the bitcoin holders must run out of that system to benefit?

No first answer my question: How can you benefit from the USD without exchanging it for goods?

That's a trick question. The real question is how you benefit within a particular system? When borrowers pay debt within the banking system of course they pay it through exchanging goods, services or labour with the USD holders. But that happens within the system. People benefit within a system they invested in. People invested their goods, services and labor in fiat currency system, and from within that system they are benefiting.

On the other hand, people invested their economic resources in the bitcoin system, however, in order to benefit they must exist that system. That's because there's nothing in the system. It's worthless. It's a scam. In every scam, you invest into it, but you benefit only if you exist it.