Quote from: be.open on Today at 04:16:35 AM

Quote from: paxmao on June 07, 2022, 09:59:20 PM

False. The embargo is real. The oil bought by those countries is 10% of the total and does not make any difference. Hungary is as close as a country can get to being expelled from the EU for failing to follow the rule of law, implementing one state of exception after another. They are already excluded from the EU funds for those reasons. Let them buy from Adolf Putin, eventually they may only be able to buy from him.

There is no lack of refining capability in Europe, there is no lack of heavy crude oil in the world. Unfortunately, the RF citizens are going to have a though time in the next decade.

US and EU are avoiding what is called "secondary sanctions" to India and China, but India will pay a price for this eventually.

Do not accuse me of lying, if you are not able to confirm this with evidence and facts, with unfounded accusations you only discredit yourself and lose the status of an adequate interlocutor in the eyes of others. There is too much hypocrisy to consider the EU oil embargo real in a thread discussing India's resale of refined Russian oil to Europe lol.

What is clear is that the EU cannot magically stop consuming all the oil and gas it used to buy from Russia. It can gradually reduce it as it installs more renewables, as it has been doing for years.

I think there is a lot of window-dressing going on here, and I would like to see how they approach energy policy in the medium term, not to mention the long term, as politicians are not usually capable of thinking beyond one term of office. For me the lesser evil is to install more nuclear power plants, because fossil fuels mean putting the EU in the hands of other countries, many of them dictatorships. And to make a fool of themselves as in this case.