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Quote from: larry_vw_1955 on June 13, 2022, 04:39:55 AM

Running a bitcoin node is intensive.

So why do you want to remove the ability for people to run a pruned node if they cannot manage to run a full node?

I was just talking about reasons I personally can't run a full node. I don't have 500GB of empty disc space to allow it to use. And I'm not going to crack open an ssd just for that purpose. sorry.

Quote from: larry_vw_1955 on June 13, 2022, 04:39:55 AM

Now would you be willing to perform that action for every single cryptocurrency that you use? Of course not.

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That's exactly what I do. Bitcoin and Monero.

I'm a light user of bitcoin. A light user of Litecoin, eth, solana. Since I don't using them to do transfers every day or even every month. I could go 6 months without doing a transfer. I can't justify running a node for any of them based on that. But that's my own situation. yours might be different.

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Or maybe just don't buy centralized scam coins. Running a Solana node is pointless since the whole thing is completely centralized anyway.

I don't really care about solana's setup. I just use it from time to time if I can collect a small payment here and there. Send it to coinbase for next to nothing without having to "time" my transaction for when the mempool is running empty. I won't pay any fee. Solana just happens to be a useful tool like LTC since it has very low fees all the time. I don't care about anything else. I don't care if solana goes offline from time to time as long as it doesnt' happen when i need to use it. And if it is offline, it probably wont be offline for more than a day and then i can cash out. the benefits vs downsides you have to weigh them and decide which one outweighs the other.

Quote from: larry_vw_1955 on June 13, 2022, 04:39:55 AM

Anyone can do what they want to but it would seem to me that pruning takes away your ability to look up and even construct transactions of your own.

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It doesn't. You simply set up your wallet in advance, and Core will keep all the transactions relevant to your addresses after it starts to prune old blocks. A pruned node can still validate new blocks and transactions, keep your wallet up to date, and let you create transactions.

How do you "set up your wallet in advance" with all the bitcoin addresses you control?

Quote from: larry_vw_1955 on June 13, 2022, 04:39:55 AM

Exactly. Useless to people because you can't look up transactions. You can't really do anything. Except verify transactions or something. Helping the network as they say.

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"Except verify transactions or something", as if being able to verify things for yourself isn't a core tenet of Bitcoin. And as above, a pruned node will quite easily let you look up transaction relevant to your wallet(s) - it just doesn't store everyone else's transactions too.

I'm not so sure about that. It has no way of knowing what addresses are relevant to me so how would it know what transactions I am interested in?

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That means pruned node isn't suitable for your use-case.

No its probably not. The way I see it is if I can afford to download the entire blockchain initially then i can afford to keep it on the hard drive.

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No, you don't, that's required only if you want to run a non-pruned full node. You can just sync and verify everything without storing all the blocks and therefore, you can run a full node with only few gigabytes of space, which is pruning, that's told to you a page now.

yeah but you have to always be syncing up or else your copy of the blockchain becomes outdated. meaning it doesnt contain the latest blocks and transactions. everyday you need to sync up. otherwise when you do try and sync up the sync process is going to be longer. to make up for the days you didn't sync up. just how it is. not saying its undoable but i don't like the idea of having to do that. even electrum wants to download a crap ton of blockheaders which i find to be not so nice because it just takes over my network connection. holds it hostage until it finishes doing its thing. (someone mentioned using electrum as alternative but for that reason it's not)

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You can't look up transactions of other people, but you can look up your transactions, which is the only thing that matters if you make personal use.

How does bitcoin core know me vs "other people"? How does it know which transactions are mine and which are "other peoples"?

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What's your problem exactly? I don't understand.

Well for example, say I have a multisig address I want to spend out of. And do it using bitcoin core. that was one of my things I didn't know if it was possible. without downloading the whole blockchain. or consulting an external blockchain explorer to get transaction informations.