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we absolutely need desktopwallets aswell since myself for example don't trust anything that i do not have under my own control. I think others may think the same way. What's not on your own system (desktop wallet) is not really yours.
I wouldn't use any onlinesolution for storing coins. I think it's not safe. An onlinepage with login and password is like an invitation for hackers to brute force.

i am actually pretty excited about nem. Can't wait for release.

i use a 512bit passphrase.. your saying that isnt safe?

i don't even know what that is Cheesy

i got used to securing desktopwallets though and improved constantly on security and would be nice if i could use that knowledge for nem also.
I never lost a coin that was on my own system. But i lost quite some coins on hacked exchanges. I like my coins offline for that reason Wink

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the logic is: if it is online theoretically the whole world can try to steal it. If it is not online nobody has really a way to access.

it means that it would take 100s if not thousands of years to brute force it...

well what if you go to someones house and you need your coins? ok if you have a 'seed' you can download a wallet but thats a pain in the ass... with brain wallets you can go from one comp to another very easily and move/use your coins.. also with the AE being inclient you can also trade with out even having to send your coins anywhere.. cant do that with offline clients.. also how many peoples computers have been directly hacked and coins stolen? if you state on here you have x amount of coins a good hacker wants then.. im sure they could take them.. brian wallets are the way to go.. for sure.. but there still needs to be support for offline storage i think... personally i think its pointless but if it makes people feel more secure then ok...

You don't have to send them anywhere because they are already "anywhere". I don't see why an AE would be more inconvenient with a local wallet.
You said you have a 512bit password. Since it's impossible for you to remember that (at least if you're an average joe) I suppose you store it somewhere right ? In a file maybe ? So you have to carry that file around to use your wallet anywhere. Now tell me in what way is it better to carry that file around than carrying the wallet file around ?

i dont have to download any programs.. i dont have to do anything other then open client insert passphrase done.. and i know that even if someone hacks my computer they still wont get my coins.. with a wallet file.. if using a desktop client you would need to download the blockchain... and i dont know but do you have to use the same client.. or will a wallet file work on any client?

If someone hacks your computer there is a good chance they will also install keylogger which is all they need to access your wallet.
A wallet file should work on any client since it afaik only contains your private key that you need to access your coins in the blockchain. Downloading the blockchain might also not be necessary since a kind of snapshot system was discussed for NEM. I'm not sure about that anymore though so don't count on that. Even if you have to download the blockchain though - I had to download the NXT blockchain recently - took like 10 minutes. I think we can agree that that is very much endurable especialy considering that this is also roughly the time it takes for a bitcoin tx to be confirmed