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Re: El Salvador has become the first country to make #Bitcoin legal tender! 🇸🇻
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JayJuanGee
on 21/06/2022, 19:48:22 UTC
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I answered your question previously. So it is not a problem of my words. It is a problem of your attitude to words: it seems that you don't want to clarify what did I want to say but to make me speaking up like you like. If you want so you need more convincing arguments, not imposing.

I believe that I said what I wanted to say and how I wanted to say it.  We can agree to disagree, and I stand by my previous posts including my repeated criticisms of what I concluded to be the ongoingly vague language that you had chosen to use especially when you seemed to have only been willing to use the word bitcoin or even admit that you were talking about bitcoin after a lot of probing.. so I doubt that any kind of a problem, to the extent that there is any has to do with my seeking language clarification from you, and your several times recharacterizing my concerns into other diverging discussions. 

From my point of view your earlier conduct to communicate in seemingly intentional vagueness (which perhaps you had not intended to be vague?) that you have somewhat subsequently clarified seems to have had contributed to some of the confusion and even some of my increased hostility towards some of your seemingly ongoing dancing around the topic, even if you proclaim to have had good intentions in terms of your purportedly wanting folks to be more educated about the topic of bitcoin and/or crypto, which I cannot really have objections to those kinds of goals of better educating of folks even if we may well disagree about if you have any great teaching skills  based on your already expression of ideas on the topic and the fact that it has taken several back and forths for you to clarify aspects that you should have been able to clarify much earlier.. but anyhow.. you do you..

So sure, it does seem that I had previously concluded that your ongoing vague use of the term crypto (that you have subsequently defined in not necessarily a bad way) seemed to have been having the opposite effect in terms of educating folks about bitcoin and/or crypto (within your description of the concept of how you believe the bitcoin/crypto matter should be considered and your purported goals that people should be better educated on the topic of bitcoin from a broader perspective that goes beyond bitcoin.. ).   

Sure our view are different, but may well not be completely incompatible.. depending on context.... even though I will stand by any assertion that any of us need to be careful not to cause too much confusion when we are using the term crypto (and I question motives when people believe it is actually helpful to present matters like that in such vagueness and expect that they are clarifying matters or are more enlightened because of their use of broad and vague language like that) - especially when we are talking about bitcoin (as I already mentioned several times) and if we are also failing/refusing to use the term bitcoin in order to clarify what the fuck we are talking about.. which you seem to want to continue to employ that kind of seemingly vague language in a way that you are proclaiming to be a more enlightened approach.. and of course, I do not agree with that kind of nonsensical approach as being helpful even if you are proclaiming that yur goals are to teach and clarify when you seem to be doing the opposite through your stubborn assertion that you plan to stick with your ways of talking.. because you fear the language police and you want your freedoms of expression.. hahahahaha even though surely you have the right to speak however you like.. and I have the right to continue to proclaim that your way of speaking seems to be intentionally confusing.. if that is how you choose to continue to proceed to talk about bitcoin matters in vague ways that make it look like you are engaging in deceptive and misleading false equivalencies of bitcoin and shitcoins through such vagueness.. whether that is your intent or not. .which you seem to be suggesting that purposefully creating confusion is not your intention.. but based on your ongoing stubbornness and even more recent assertive and seemingly self-righteous assertions on the topic I have my doubts.   

Oh?  You want to also say that you don't like governments and you do no trust them.  Maybe you will trust the politicians more if they start to talk in gobbledy-gook speak and start throwing out vague-ass terms, like crypto? when they mean bitcoin, no?  If they start using the term "crypto" and talking about "crypto", then that should hale you to trust the politicians more, no?

Using words correctly is a value.

I am glad that you appreciate that concept.. .. even though from my perspective, your valuing correct word usage still leads you and me to have differing views about the value of using the term crypto when talking about bitcoin and bitcoin's relationship to cryptocurrency and whether your use of the term crypto may well carry a lot of baggage about shitcoins based on actual happenings in the world.. rather than merely some abstract academic use of the proper use of the term when applying the use of the term to actual happenings in the world....and whether it matters or not..  which it seems to matter.

I wasn't talking about any of that... or at least that was not my intention.. I was just trying to get you to clarify what you meant by crypto and how that relates to El Salvador's bitcoin law implementation.

Really? I answered already what do I mean and that I don't mean that basic crypto education have to contain altcoin promotion.

That's good.  Devil still might be in the details, no?

Ok.. Again. .you are proclaiming that the El Salvadorean government is not doing enough to contribute towards better bitcoin adoption/education, and you believe that the suggestions that you made in regards to a possible better course of action may well be helpful to them to make some better progress.  

Alright.. Hopefully some representative from El Salvador is reading your suggestions so that they can receive some potential wise counsel about how easy their solutions might end up being towards making better bitcoin adoption and better education of their populace.

Yes, it is what I said from the very beginning: to get better results in bitcoin adoption in El Salvador better education in this topic is needed as Salvadorians IMO (statistics shows that) don't have enough information about is's nature and benefits.

It seems that we do not disagree about those kinds of general overall principles and assessments.