Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 05:46:10 AM

Quote from: death_wish on Today at 02:36:14 AM

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[Edit: I was mistaken about cAPSLOCK; I could go only on what I had or hadn’t seen him post, and it seems that I significantly misunderstood him. I retract and apologize for the statements at this paragraph, which were correct in principle but way off the mark when said about him.]

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I doubt that I need to defend cAPSLOCK because he can stand up for his lil selfie.

He can do better than that: He can be a Bitcoin gentleman who actually has supported Core. Financially and otherwise. Then, I need to hurry up and apologize to him—as I immediately did, in the post that you quoted—and I need to applaud him!

Quote from: death_wish on Today at 03:51:30 AM

Quote from: cAPSLOCK on Today at 02:52:42 AM

Have anonymously donated to both Bitcoin Development as well as another project along the way. Both my own money and my time in the form of community contributions and merged pull requests on both projects.

He is generally reputable, and there is some subtlety there that most people will not catch. So... By criticizing him, I wound up praising him. That’s how it’s done.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 05:46:10 AM

I follow quite a few forum threads, but I cannot recall seeing one specifically aimed at various ways to fund devs.. or even funding lighting devs.

Bitcoin is so decentralized that funding is also decentralized. Here is an overview of how Core development actually gets paid for:

https://polylunar.com/bitcoin-grants-tracker/

https://bitcoinwords.github.io/grants/

https://blog.bitmex.com/who-funds-bitcoin-development/

As I mentioned before, Blockstream employees some key developers; so does MIT DCI, which was pretty much founded for that purpose. BitMEX makes many grants. So does Square, as you can see in those lists...

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 05:46:10 AM

Square and Jack Dorsey has also been pretty good at funding Devs..

Yes.

Gemini also shows up several times in those lists. Also OKCoin, and some others. Who does not show up at all: Coinbase, Binance, FTX...

Private donations are also listed. I am guessing that there are probably private donations which do not show up on these lists—“private” being the operative word.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 05:46:10 AM

and if you know so much on the topic,

I don’t. That’s why I have failed before to connect money who wanted developers with developers who wanted money. But it seems I know a little bit more than some people. I have also been involved in informal discussions about making a better way to approach this; that was not on my initiative, and it was ~~probably~~ entirely my fault that it went nowhere.

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 05:46:10 AM

then maybe you can start a thread or even start your own fund?

Is that your suggestion, Jay?

Quote from: JayJuanGee on Today at 05:46:10 AM

Wait you don't have hardly no BTC, so people might be skeptical of your motives, no?

You mean like how skeptical people ~~are~~ should be of Dabs, the habituated beggar, who has made a career of running allegedly charitable threads, and of doing escrow? What do you suggest we should do about that? Don’t think that I have forgotten about it; wait for approximately tomorrow, for whatever reason. Beggars SHOULD NOT be running public “charities” and handling escrows—much less those who sneak around begging on the sly.

Jay, I am no Dabs. It is manifestly unfair of you to cast such aspersions on my motives. I have not expressed any desire to take up a collection to support Core development. You are making up an idea, then punching down your own idea as a strawman in a way that is wrongful towards me. I have never cheated, begged, mooched, or shown even the slightest inclination to do so. If I hypothetically wished to handle such a type of project, my personal financial condition in and of itself would not disqualify me from handling money that I would not misappropriate, even if I were literally starving. It assuredly does not disqualify me from discussing the fact that Bitcoin developers need to be paid.

A life protip for you: It is possible for a poor person to be friends with a rich person, if the former has the pride never to be a beggar, a mooch, or a cheater. I learned this when young: By a peculiar circumstance, I had lunch with a businessman. He was impressed that when lunch was done, I pulled out my wallet and picked up my part of the tab. I was a youth working odd jobs for low wages. He was rich, and accustomed to people trying to mooch off of him. We became fast friends.

Although I have had my ups and downs, I am still the same man. I have friends who are wealthier than I am. I have never abused their friendship—not even at times when I was personally in much worse desperation than I am now. Because I never abuse their friendship, they respect me as their equal—even if I am flat broke. I have nothing but contempt for your strawman.