Quote from: OutOfMemory on Today at 08:30:05 PM

Quote from: becoin on Today at 07:46:52 PM

Russia is changing the world. Russia represents the best hope for a fairer world order.

becoin, my favourite Russia fanboy, this would have been a great joke if...

1. RU didn't invade and rape Ukraine
2. RU didn't choke cereal export from Ukraine to the hungry 3rd world (but just stole the grain)
3. RU didn't send their young and weak to get slaughtered in a 3-day "special military operation"
4. RU didn't poison former intelligence agents all over the world
5. RU didn't lie every other day to the world and their people
6. RU didn't stick to agreements (like being paid for oil in foreign currencies)

Such fair Roll Eyes

GTFO with your emperialist shill now. There's a thread for this war. Stick to it, will ya?

Yeah to be fair, both Russia, and some of the governments of EU, and the good old USA, and China, are all fucking scumbags.... I mean I could do a really good list, just like yours, with actions of the USA and allies in the middle east. Which in fact, is undoubtedly FAR worse, over a FAR longer period of time, and with much less "standing" (ie, as far as I recall Iraq, is not on the border of USA). I mean, remember the USA kidnapping and torturing and killing people in Italian hotels? and other cases of extraordinary rendition ? Remember when the USA and allies, purposefully destroyed the water purification systems in Iraq and an experiments on the after effects? Remember the depleted uranium the USA dropped all over Iraq? Remember the lies after lies after lies that the USA and allies have told over decades about their actions? I mean, to be fair this thing in Ukraine, is awful, but it is literal child's play compared to what the USA and allies have done in just recent decades. (at least it is so far) and you know, they did all that with our tax payers money.

Both as bad as each other.

Also, just to be fair, there are people here in this thread that cheerlead supposed victories of the Ukrainians... which is fine, (but I thought the Ukrainians had basically already won, and it was all going Ukraine's way ? ohhhh I see that was all bullshit fed to us by the propaganda machine, ie, they oth the Ukrainians, the western media, and the politicians are all lying to us...and of course so are the russians)

Just to be clear, I am not defending Russia, I am just saying, that nation states in glasshouses should not be throwing stones....

annnnnnnnnnnyway, Becoin's, post, imo, is not that out of place in this thread.... what is good for the goose is good for the gander after all no?

However, Becoin's post also, had pretty much zero to do with the post he replied to, not in any context at all.

In other news....... I now see it increasingly more likely that this war in Ukraine, escalates... and moves beyond Ukraine's borders..... which is not good news for anyone.