Quote from: pooya87 on Today at 08:40:58 AM

Quote from: DrBeer on July 02, 2022, 06:34:20 PM

According to your concept, the Second World War began with the liberation war of the German and Russian people for the freedom of the population of Europe. And in 1941, Hitler carried out a special operation to save the people of the USSR from the oppression of the Kremlin junta? Well, yes, yes ... I hope you will be part of the "liberated people" over time!

You should know better since Ukraine was collaborating with Nazi Germany during WWII in Schutzmannschaft, German military and in running concentration camps. Maybe that was also a "peacekeeping mission" like Iraq?

You either do not understand a little, or deliberately twist the history of Ukraine.
Let's go through this story for a bit. First of all, it should be noted that after the revolution in Russia in 1917, the Bolsheviks forcibly annexed Ukraine to the USSR, killing both the flower of the Ukrainian intelligentsia and the defenders of the idea of an independent Ukraine.

As a result of the famine and genocide by the USSR, before World War II, Stalin killed millions more Ukrainians. Therefore, many in Ukraine perceived the outbreak of war with Nazi Germany as a chance to free themselves from the oppression of the USSR. Most Ukrainians fought in the Red Army, but some Ukrainians in western Ukraine formed the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) to create an independent Ukraine. At first they fought against the Soviet government in alliance with Germany, and when they saw what atrocities the Nazis were doing in Ukraine, they began to fight against the Nazis on two fronts.

The war came to Ukraine in March 1939. It began in Transcarpathia, when Hungarian troops, allies of the Nazis, broke into the territory of Carpathian Ukraine. It was the first battle with the Nazis in Europe. Between 2,000 and 6,500 people who came to the defense of Ukrainian statehood died - even before the start of World War II.

From September 1939 to June 1941, the Soviet authorities deported 1.17–1.25 million (according to various estimates) residents of the territories newly annexed to the USSR in Western Ukraine. Millions of Ukrainians fought in the Red Army and the armies of the allies, about a hundred thousand fought for their own independence as part of the OUN-UPA.
OUN members fought against the communists and Nazis and did not abandon the idea of uniting the inhabitants of the West and the East, the South and the North around the idea of Ukraine's independence.

Fronts marched across the Ukrainian land: first from west to east, then from east to west, destroying everything in its path. During this war, 700 cities and 28 thousand other settlements were destroyed in Ukraine, 1.8 million rural houses were destroyed.

Only the irretrievable human losses of Ukraine in the Second World War in the fight against fascism amount to more than 10 million people. This number does not include servicemen from Ukraine who died from September 1, 1939 to June 22, 1941 on the Soviet-Polish and Soviet-Finnish fronts, the dead soldiers of the UPA, as well as Soviet partisans. Therefore, the Ukrainians paid dearly in this war.

In 1946, the Soviet government again staged an artificial famine in Ukraine, taking advantage of the dry season that year.

Ukraine was able to proclaim its independence only in 1991, simultaneously with the collapse of the USSR. First of all, it is independence from Russia, which became the successor of the former USSR. But, as we see, imperial Russia still does not give up its attempts to enslave Ukraine in the current war.