Quote from: Wilhelm on Today at 12:10:11 PM

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Quote from: sirazimuth on Today at 04:09:33 AM

Ok whatever.... you mentioned "popular will of the people"/"representative democracy. "
If that was truly the case, that last clown elected in 2016 would not have happened.

Quote from: Richy_T on Today at 03:46:38 AM

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I would *welcome* a widespread review of gun laws in the US. The overwhelming majority of them would be thrown out as ineffectual if nothing else.

The USA is a gun toting culture. Always has been, always will be.
So get used to mass shootings. (I'd venture to guess most Americans have at this point) They are not going away.
Debating gun laws in the USA is like debating religion.
Just like the thoughts and prayers the victims get, it's totally fruitless and useless. Sad but true.

I understand the temptation to equate something you disagree with with something else you disagree with, but let me explain how I see it.

When they come to take my property. I have a choice afforded me by my constitution. I can hand it over, or I can die defending it behind my AR15. I am practiced, have a lot of ammo and though I will likely die defending my property, I will have had that honorable choice.

The current president pointed out that my AR15 is no match against the government's F16s. And that illustrates CLEARLY how close to the brink we are today.

An armed and ready populace is much harder to subdue than one that is not armed. Over and over and over we can see clearly in history how it goes when one side holds the guns and the other does not.

If they come for me. Some of them will die as well.

Why aren't civilians allowed to bear nuclear warheads? That infringes your rights doesn't it?

Reductio ad absurdum.

OK. I am done with this topic. My position should be crystal clear. I have no desire to piss off 3/4s of the WO, and this is way off topic. I just get lit up a little when the same weak arguments get posted over and over.