Quote from: johhnyUA on July 07, 2022, 08:26:43 PM

Glenn Greenwald is pro-kremlin troll
I can consider Glenn Greenwald as a Putin whore,

Quote from: 1miau on July 07, 2022, 11:03:23 PM

Greenwald is a dipshit. Cheesy

Quote from: 1miau on July 07, 2022, 09:43:04 PM

liar Glenn Greenwald has obviously purchased some real estate in Putin's ass recently.

Truly, your rationality, eloquence, and reasonableness in discourse are astonishing.

Years ago, when people on the right sneered at me that I shouldn’t read stuff by that liberal fag Greenwald, I told them to fuck off. Your cheap insults (and dogwhistles?) will not so easily dissuade me from reading the reports of a man with sterling journalistic integrity and personal courage, whom I respect for the same reason that you now ridicule him: He reports on unpopular facts that people do not want to see.

I stand with Greenwald.

Quote from: johhnyUA on July 07, 2022, 10:54:38 PM

will answer to all other sophisticated juggling tomorrow in the morning, so this post will be expanded

Translation: You have no answer for what I have said.

You are projecting about “sophisticated juggling”, when you evade and slide around anything that in any way contradicts your hatred for Russia.

I am not a Russian partisan, per se. I wish for peace between Russia and Ukraine. I resolutely oppose the American Empire’s world-wrecking agenda, which here proceeds apace; I have been outspoken on this forum against the American Empire for years, so my position should be no surprise. And hereby apropos, I oppose the massive groupthink campaign of censorship, propaganda, polarization, and intimidation to enforce an unlimited blind hate towards Russia.

From your posts, I can see that you will condemn me, insult me, and attack me if I refuse to condemn Russia—if I refuse to declare myself an enemy of Russia. Well, I do NOT condemn Russia. I am NOT an enemy of Russia. To the contrary. I consider myself a friend of the Russian people; and objectively, I can see Russia’s strategic predicament. I also personally have no ill-will to Ukrainian people; years ago, before I ever registered for this forum, I had some outright Ukrainian nationalist friends, too. I object to some of the rhetoric from certain quarters on the Russian side—let’s just put it this way: When there are some people on both sides screaming that the other side are Nazis, the discourse is tragicomically broken down to a degree that is probably offensive to real Nazis. To top it off, my worst complaints about RT are their habitual sniping at Baltic peoples, and some of their historical doublethink—other than that, I think that RT is much more honest than The New York Times; that is admittedly damning with faint praise. If you want to be my enemy, it is your choice.

Just noticed this skimming by a post from earlier, which changed drastically several times after I first read it:

Quote from: johhnyUA on July 07, 2022, 07:50:04 PM

Quote from: nullius on July 06, 2022, 07:01:20 AM

remembering how the U.S. reacted in the Cuban Missile Crisis

Oh, maybe I'm stupid, but I can't remember full scale invasion at Cuba with a lot of dead civilians, childrens and so on. naval blockade is a little bit different thing, isn't it?

Oh, maybe you don’t know much about history. Nukes almost flew; they probably would have, if Russia had not backed down enough to satisfy the Americans in a negotiated settlement. Apocalyptic thermonuclear war is a little bit of a different thing, isn’t it?

At this juncture, I began to draft what would be quite a long essay about my own opinions on the war. However, as I have said repeatedly, I did not enter this thread to discuss the war in itself. There are Politics & Society threads for that purpose; and if I have a different angle on it, I can create a P&S thread, too. If I wish to discuss the war here on the Bitcoin Forum, then I will properly do so in Politics & Society. If. It is not exactly the purpose for which I myself come to the Bitcoin Forum.

Here, in Meta, I am interested in discussing the Bitcoin Forum’s long-cherished policy of freedom of speech.

For the record, this is the status of my request to move this thread to Politics & Society:

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reportlist;mine

July 06, 2022, 08:11:44 AM

The situation with Ukraine and the accounts that supported the war.

cryptomaxsun

Unhandled

My report text (saved by me before submission):

Quote from: nullius

Please move to Politics & Society. This thread is *wildly* off-topic in Meta; and as I stated publicly, the tolerance of this off-topic thread in Meta chills the freedom of speech: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5388472.msg60519558#post_modmsg

^^^ The forum’s policy as such is a properly on-topic discussion for Meta. By citation to Greenwald’s reports, I have adequately demonstrated that Internet censorship, and especially Big Tech censorship, is a major problem on this topic. I urge the Bitcoin Forum not to contribute to that, even subtly, by giving the impression that requests may be considered for “an eternal ban” of users with unpopular opinions.

This thread is an attempt to intimidate users with pro-Russia opinions—and even users who have simply refused to take anti-Russian positions. Not naming names as may draw bigger targets on people—I see at least one person on that list only because he refused a demand that he act adversely to Russians. (I need not remark on OP’s cowardice and hypocrisy in ignoring my polite requests to be added to his censorship-target list, for which I obviously qualify.)

Why is this thread still in Meta?